Which Hose?

[Jab]

I'm pretty new to festool.  I have done a lot of woodworking just not with festool tools. First purchase was a CT 36 earlier this year.  Now I have the TS 55 REQ and the RO 90 DX as well.  I need to get a cleaning kit.  I am wondering if the 36 mm hose is really that much better on the TS 55REQ.  If it is I could get the tradesman installer kit.  If the 36mm hose is really only a necessity with say the kapex then I would just get the compact cleaning kit.  It seems to be the most portable option. I really don't want to haul both hoses around.  So far I have been cleaning up with the 27 mm hose and a homemade adapter for some other shop vacs accessories.  Just hoping to get some thoughts from the experienced folks on here.  I am not a professional.  I just work on projects in a small garage and do a few jobs for friends. 

Also anyone have the mft sys.  If so what do u think. Useful or not.

James

 

[wow]

First, [welcome] to the FOG!

I have the compact cleaning set. I got it used with an older Midi. I got rid of the Midi and now have the CT36AC with the 36mm hose. I haven't actually used it with the CT36 yet. Now that I am moving around again, that may change as early as this week.

I didn't actually use it much even when I had the Midi, since I tend to do most of my cleanup around the shop using a regular 16-gallon shop vac. I intended to have it for when I went on site - but I haven't done that yet!

Let us know what you decide, and why? I find I learn a lot from other people's deliberations if they share.

 

[shed9]

The 36mm is definitely better than the 27mm hose in terms of dust extraction but is really not a necessary purchase, especially for a light user.

 

[dltflt]

If you want the good dust collection on your TS55 get the 36 mm hose. I bought the tradesman cleaning kit and do not regret it one bit. When you get a larger router like an 1400 or 2200 you will definitely need it.

 

[semenza]

  Personally I have found the D36 hose to only be a small improvement on the TS55. A noticeable improvement on the Kapex. And a big improvement on the 1400 router and 850 planer. It is a big improvement for clean up only if larger or longer splintery pieces are being sucked up that can get stuck in the D27 hose connection.

Seth

 

[fin]

those cleaning kits witht he 36mm hose look a canny investment. do they clip on the ts55 as good as the 27mm hose? if i use it with my planer (currently an old bosch) the 27mm hose slips inside but it can clog up and stop sucking dust.

whats the opinions of those that have them for general clean up on carpet and laminate floor? just theres a few different options available.

 

[grbmds]

I really like the 36 mm hose for the TS55, OF1400, and Domino. With sanders, unfortunately, the 27mm hose seems to be the better choice because it's more flexible and there is really just too much suction with the 36mm hose, even dialed down to the lowest Festool vacuum setting. I do find the 36mm dust collection much better though. (I think, sometimes, because we spend the extra money for something like the 36mm hose, we tend to perceive it's better to justify the cost.) Anyway, other than sanding, the larger hose is great.

 

[WoodWhisperer]

  Personally I have found the D36 hose to only be a small improvement on the TS55. A noticeable improvement on the Kapex. And a big improvement on the 1400 router and 850 planer. It is a big improvement for clean up only if larger or longer splintery pieces are being sucked up that can get stuck in the D27 hose connection.

Seth

Seth, did u cut your 36 mm hose in half for the kapex?

 

[Benjamin]

no , the 36mm hose is a necessity .....

thats all there is to it.

you'll see when you use it with the ts55 and won't go back

 

[Wenyce]

no , the 36mm hose is a necessity .....

thats all there is to it.

you'll see when you use it with the ts55 and won't go back

I've only used the 27 on my TS55 and I can't imagine how much better it could be, I mean theres barely any dust to begin with, lol. But i will try out the 36 when if ever i get one.

A question for all, this might be an important point for the decision the poster is to consider.
Does gunk normally build up in the extraction passage of the ts55 ( the part inside the ts55 that leads to the dust port). Is that a by-product of the smaller 27mm hose or it'll happen more depending on the wood, cuz I've only cut melamine so far.

 

[abgoto]

I would recommend buying the Tradesperson/Installer cleaning set. The 36 mm hose is much better for cleaning than the 27 mm hose.  It has better suction and is less likely to clog.

 

[semenza]

  Personally I have found the D36 hose to only be a small improvement on the TS55. A noticeable improvement on the Kapex. And a big improvement on the 1400 router and 850 planer. It is a big improvement for clean up only if larger or longer splintery pieces are being sucked up that can get stuck in the D27 hose connection.

Seth

Seth, did u cut your 36 mm hose in half for the kapex?

Yes I have a 4 1/2' hose for the Kapex. It definitely makes a difference.

Seth

 

[semenza]

no , the 36mm hose is a necessity .....

thats all there is to it.

you'll see when you use it with the ts55 and won't go back

  I find the D36 makes a bigger improvement on the TS55 when using the Panther blade than it does with the Fine blade. It handles the more shredded pieces from the Panther better than the D27, and because it fits over the port rather than into it , there is less chance for a clog at the connection point.  D36 seems to make more of a difference when cutting MDF with the Fine blade too. So yes I think it is an improvement over the D27 overall, but at least for me, is somewhat situational.

Seth

 

[semenza]

no , the 36mm hose is a necessity .....

thats all there is to it.

you'll see when you use it with the ts55 and won't go back

I've only used the 27 on my TS55 and I can't imagine how much better it could be, I mean theres barely any dust to begin with, lol. But i will try out the 36 when if ever i get one.

A question for all, this might be an important point for the decision the poster is to consider.
Does gunk normally build up in the extraction passage of the ts55 ( the part inside the ts55 that leads to the dust port). Is that a by-product of the smaller 27mm hose or it'll happen more depending on the wood, cuz I've only cut melamine so far.

I've only noticed a build up when cutting something with pitch or wax type substance in the wood, cypress in particular.

Seth

 

[tjbnwi]

I have 2 MFT's. Most used tool(s).

36 mm hose is great in some situations. You really need both.

Tom

 

[Benjamin]

no , the 36mm hose is a necessity .....

thats all there is to it.

you'll see when you use it with the ts55 and won't go back

I've only used the 27 on my TS55 and I can't imagine how much better it could be, I mean theres barely any dust to begin with, lol. But i will try out the 36 when if ever i get one.

A question for all, this might be an important point for the decision the poster is to consider.
Does gunk normally build up in the extraction passage of the ts55 ( the part inside the ts55 that leads to the dust port). Is that a by-product of the smaller 27mm hose or it'll happen more depending on the wood, cuz I've only cut melamine so far.

I've only noticed a build up when cutting something with pitch or wax type substance in the wood, cypress in particular.

Seth

That's interesting Seth , as I notice a large difference

But it's probably what I'm cutting as you say.

 

[semenza]

no , the 36mm hose is a necessity .....

thats all there is to it.

you'll see when you use it with the ts55 and won't go back

I've only used the 27 on my TS55 and I can't imagine how much better it could be, I mean theres barely any dust to begin with, lol. But i will try out the 36 when if ever i get one.

A question for all, this might be an important point for the decision the poster is to consider.
Does gunk normally build up in the extraction passage of the ts55 ( the part inside the ts55 that leads to the dust port). Is that a by-product of the smaller 27mm hose or it'll happen more depending on the wood, cuz I've only cut melamine so far.

I've only noticed a build up when cutting something with pitch or wax type substance in the wood, cypress in particular.

Seth

That's interesting Seth , as I notice a large difference

But it's probably what I'm cutting as you say.

  I also should note that I have the dust cover on the TS55 which is a contributing factor. Forgot about that.  And the D36 makes a bigger difference in my use on the TS75 (which does not have a cover).

Seth

 

[grbmds]

I had the TS75 for a short time and that was why I originally bought the 36mm hose. It is almost a necessity with the TS75. The smaller hose does not do nearly as good a job. However, the TS55 is better although I still feel I get much better results with the bigger hose even on that saw, and with the OF1400, and with the Domino. With the sanders the 27mm hose is a much better choice, possibly with the Trim Router also. It's just less cumbersome and the suction is sufficient for these.