Which Sortainers to buy?

I thought the price for sortainers to be rather exorbitant, but I looked at my floorspce vs storage problems.  I thought i would atleast give it a try.

What works for me is that i do not always need the same combination of tools, screws, accessories, etc.  To store all in permanent fixtures, such as drawers, even on casters, does not always work.  there often is no place to roll a small storage cabinet to without rolling something else to another location.

With the sortainer/systainers, i just look at the labels, think about what will be needed for a project/the day/whatever and pick what i will need.  I lock them together as a group and pick up the pile, deliver to general proximity of where I will be working, leave all other "packages" locked together stacked to ceiling or set up as a base for a temporary assembly table.  My shop becomes so much more versatile that cost factor becomes less important. 

I would love to have space where I could just roll a heavy cabinet/set of drawers/what have you out to where ever i will need it, but that just means a whole lot of other stuff needs moving.  Even with a bad back, i can still pick up a pretty good pile of sortainers/systainers and move as necessary.  I did get one of the festool dollys to set at bottom of a pile.(they don't cost much more than a set of 4 casters >>> unassembled)  that works out so fine, i will get another one or two.  I will mount tools etc according to most anticipated combinations of usage and if the stacks cannot be rolled around, each stack will still be light enough that they can be picked up and carried without moving everything else in the shop. 

$$$ vs usefulness is the way i try to prioritze.  what the heck, if i impact the budget too much, it just means another year before retirement.  I have answered the question of retirement as "when i look up and see them throwing the dirt over me.  problem is, they will probably hand me the shovel to finish the job."  So, maybe if i spend all my money @ Festool, they will hand me the tools to build the box  :P ::) :o

Tinker
 
Well Tinker about the flexibility of the Sortainers and Systainer Cart option. The ability to configure different work options does make things more space efficient in my shop too.
 
Thanks for mentioning the Systainer Cart.  (I knew that I was forgetting something!)  I just added two of them to my order.

Also, I agree about flexibility.  The ability to reconfigure things for the job at hand is one of the major benefits of Festool in general.  Whether it's a specific stack of systainers, or some combo of MFT, tools, and accessories, I can quickly mix and match components to get the job done.  For me, nothing is more important.

Regards,

Dan.
 
Tinker said:
So, maybe if i spend all my money @ Festool, they will hand me the tools to build the box  :P ::) :o

Tinker

I met a guy who built his own coffin once. He seemed pretty placid. Wonder where you can read up on the code requirements?
 
Eli said:
Tinker said:
So, maybe if i spend all my money @ Festool, they will hand me the tools to build the box  :P ::) :o

Tinker

I met a guy who built his own coffin once. He seemed pretty placid. Wonder where you can read up on the code requirements?

Why didn't you ask him?  Or would you have had to cross over the line? :-\
Tinker
 
I wouldn't know where to find him, I just met him in passing. Of course at the time, I was young enough to have no doubt as to the possibility of immortality...
 
I too was thinking them Festool Sortainers were quite expensive so I started thinking I should make my own small-gadget-cabinet but realized I was short of space, time and ideas. Bit the bullet and now they fit nicely into our home providing a very space efficient - and working - solution.

For those things I have to have on-the-go I made my own inserts for two Systainers: Sys III and IV.
Sys III for the handtools I use on a daily basis and with a slot for the mini Systainer and then an insert for the Sys IV (or maybe it is the Sys V) for the powertools: Bosch Jigsaw, Makita power drill w extra battery, Fein Multimaster + accessories, Festool Sander + papers and my ear muffs. I was surprised I could fit so much in. Both inserts can be lifted out with all goodies in them. 

I put oak rails on the larger systainer so I can slide one of those collapsible carts under and just take off. Those two stacked together with a Sortainer with inserts see me through most of my jobs while keeping the volume down to a minimum.

 
pingvinlakrits said:
I too was thinking them Festool Sortainers were quite expensive so I started thinking I should make my own small-gadget-cabinet but realized I was short of space, time and ideas. Bit the bullet and now they fit nicely into our home providing a very space efficient - and working - solution.

For those things I have to have on-the-go I made my own inserts for two Systainers: Sys III and IV.
Sys III for the handtools I use on a daily basis and with a slot for the mini Systainer and then an insert for the Sys IV (or maybe it is the Sys V) for the powertools: Bosch Jigsaw, Makita power drill w extra battery, Fein Multimaster + accessories, Festool Sander + papers and my ear muffs. I was surprised I could fit so much in. Both inserts can be lifted out with all goodies in them. 

I put oak rails on the larger systainer so I can slide one of those collapsible carts under and just take off. Those two stacked together with a Sortainer with inserts see me through most of my jobs while keeping the volume down to a minimum.

Please share pictures of your inserts if you will. There's a lot of interest in something like that. Maybe even dimensions if you're so inclined......

Thanks,

Mike
 
Henrik,

Photos (and dimensions/materials) would be great.  You ideas sound like great solutions to me.

Dan et al.,

Does anyone know what the load rating is for the Systainer Cart (flat top dolly)?  I was thinking of making some dollies to use in my shop to facilitate moving a cabinet or piece of furniture that is in progress, so I can move it to a side location when it is time to bring the car back in, or to roll it outside for spray finishing.  I could easily make a couple of dollies with scrap wood and purchased casters, but a pair or more Festool units could have multiple uses.

Dave R.
 
I think it's 50kg, but I regularly put a SYSIV on it and stand on top, rolling along the room. Mr. Safety Nightmare. I've used it a bit to move client furniture out of the way, that's why I have two. A lot of heavy work, buy a couple of furny dollies. They were about $20 apiece when I left LA, why ruin a rollerboy.
 
Eli said:
I wouldn't know where to find him, I just met him in passing. Of course at the time, I was young enough to have no doubt as to the possibility of immortality...

That's too funny!  ::)
 
Okay, I will bring the camera to work and snap a few of the inserts I made.

I have a "fixed" set of tools so I knew what I needed to fit in for my daily work - with some extra room for the odd gadget if needed. I did some thinking (actually) beforehand and I see both inserts as "trial/MkI" inserts so I didn't work too hard on making them look great or anything.

So far they have worked well and they are somewhat modular. As the Systainer interiors are somewhat irregular in shape I made basic box inserts that can be lifted out and the small slots that surround the insert provide extra storage for saw blades and manuals etc. Took me a few hours to figure them out and less than an hour to put them together.

For the handtool Systainer I am thinking of "upgrading" to a larger systainer to allow room for some tools to be inserted standing up. I have the material but I need to think outside the box for a while, if you get my drift. Also, as the Systainers are primarily for transport the size is just right as it is with two stacked and maybe a Sortainer on top. :)

Stay tuned. If my writing looks funny in passing for any reason please have in mind that English is my second / third language so I am hampered by the language barricade.
;)
 
You aren't being lost in translation, your english is quite good. Besides, nobody here speaks pingvin, so it's the best option.
 
Eli:

Once in New Zealand I spotted a Blue Nosed Penguin from my kayak - it was floating belly down in the water (dead) and looked somewhat like how I would end up after sinking a few Screwdrivers wearing a tuxedo at a pool party. That's just about a few moments after I start talking Pidgin.

Do carpenters really drink screwdrivers? Or is it a myth or plain and simple urban legend?
 
So, the penguin was probably blue-arsed as well.
There's a joke in there somewhere about chisels vs. screwdrivers, but I just woke up and I'm not fully accessing humor chip yet....
 
does anybody have (obviously somebody does) the systainer 487194.  the pic online does not show it well but looks good for small parts etc.

thanks for your answers
 
honeydokreg said:
does anybody have (obviously somebody does) the systainer 487194.  the pic online does not show it well but looks good for small parts etc.

I have the 487552, and a second one should be here tomorrow with an extra set of yellow boxes and blue boxes.

I have been using the first one and take out the box of screws I need and take it to where I'm working on site (i.e. Kreg screws when doing valances, Confirmats when I'm doing the case work, 1-1/4" screws when I'm putting together stuff, etc.

After too many different connector storage systems, I like this one partly the lid is closed when I'm working and only the box I have will get any dust/dirt in it. I could ramble on, its late for me and I'm tired.
 
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