Whilst that was in all seriousness, there are also some other 'guru' woodworkers I'd like to meet, (As opposed to Festool aficionados). Jim Kingshott, a fine craftsman, whom I did manage to meet. I feel privileged that we became quite friendly, unfortunately shortly before his demise. I have a great respect for Frank Klausz, whose sense of humour I also like. I do enjoy Norm's videos, and seeing all the stuff he has! The man I know I won't be able to meet, was the man whose books underpinned my woodworking knowledge. I.e. the late Charles H Hayward. So there you are Peter, my 'heroes' throughout my woodworking travels! Cheers, and yes, an interesting thread.