I wanted to purchase a drum sander to sand wooden floors with, but it doesn't have a bag. Could I use the CT 22 with it for dust extraction. The drum sander is 110 volts so i could plug it into the vacuum but is it too much dust for the CT to handle. Thanks
Will the CT 22 work with a floor drum sander
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I think it would be fine using it with the drum sander. I use it with my heavy duty belt sander I know its a lot smaller but it will just fill the bag quicker.
Just you might need a long hose or keep dragging the CT22 with you.
Just you might need a long hose or keep dragging the CT22 with you.
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I've got a different take on this-doesn't seem like a good idea to me. For a small one time job, then maybe. I imagine you'd fill the bag fairly quickly, if it didn't clog first. Also, you're going to be drawing a lot of amps with a drum sander and the vac.
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Brice Burrell said:
I agree I wouldnt plug the drum into the CT22 ill run it seperate
I'm not a floor guy, so I don't speak with authority, but I've seen plenty of them on the job. The guys I've seen with the vac systems all have 4" vac hoses to extract the dust. (usually right out to the truck) Although the 22 may catch some of the dust produced by the sander, I don't believe it will efficiently keep up.
As Brice said, it might be ok for a one-off, but I would suggest a more robust solution for full, or even part time, floor sanding.
Dan
As Brice said, it might be ok for a one-off, but I would suggest a more robust solution for full, or even part time, floor sanding.
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It does all right, it is not the best but, the 22 will do a decent job.
One thing to watch out for is......the damn vac hose. A drum sander will eat through a 36mm hose pretty quick.
I really don't care to explain how I know this.
One thing to watch out for is......the damn vac hose. A drum sander will eat through a 36mm hose pretty quick.
I really don't care to explain how I know this.
As others have stated, it will do ok, but not great.
A better option is to get one of the little 1HP Steel City collectors and connect it directly to the sander. It isn't anywhere close to HEPA filtration, but will provide better results. I bought a few a couple years ago for $79 each, and they have been a pretty good investment. I have a couple hooked up as "boosters" on my stationary DC system, and use one on my floor sanders. One word of caution, use hearing protection. They are fairly loud, and generate an incredibly annoying pitch.
A better option is to get one of the little 1HP Steel City collectors and connect it directly to the sander. It isn't anywhere close to HEPA filtration, but will provide better results. I bought a few a couple years ago for $79 each, and they have been a pretty good investment. I have a couple hooked up as "boosters" on my stationary DC system, and use one on my floor sanders. One word of caution, use hearing protection. They are fairly loud, and generate an incredibly annoying pitch.
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I think the CT22 would work well until the bag got full, which wouldn't take very long with a floor sander. Thgis would be a great application for the Dust Deputy/Vac combination. Just be sure to use a large diameter hose like the Shop Vac 2-(1/4, 1/2?). The SV hose is more flexible than the Ridgid hose but you'll need at least three lengths to have enough to work on a floor. You may want the bag after all...
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fesfrank said:
I have the ct33e and a drum sander and a full size canister DC. IMO at least my Delta drum sander puts out way too much for the ct33 to keep up. It's amazing how much one of those puppies puts out in a hurry. I think it would fill the bag in a hurry and be expensive. Now you add the onida dust deputy with systainer to prefilter the junk before it hits the CT you might have a fight'n chance but it would still be challenging IMO.
I may be trying this next week (one off) with the DD and CT22 on floors in my daughter's house. I assume plumbing the Lowes or Home Depot rental floor sander dust/bag port connections to the hose to DD shouldn't be too difficult? My CT hose is the 27mm that came with it and is connected to the DD. Would I need a 36mm to handle higher volume from DD to CT?
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tms0425 said:
If you're renting a drum sander even the D36 isn't going to keep up, try a Shopvac, Ridgid, Craftsman or other 2.5" hose.
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I used my 22 with the 36mm and it works all right for single room applications, until you run over the hose with the sander.
Here's an idea for handling the floor sanding dust volume. My instinct is that the Festool dust collector should be kept for more typical woodworking projects, but you can adapt this idea to a Festool dust collector if you want to keep much of the dust from the Festool collector.
Here are four options:
- Get a Rigid 16 gallon wet/dry vacuum from Home Depot for $99 and connect a Festool Anti Static hose connected to your tool. Or use a 2 inch line connected to it and the tool. (Read on, because this option will clog your Rigid canister filter rapidly);
- Put a cyclone dust collection top in between the vacuum and the tool with a garbage can or drum to catch most of the dust. See http://www.leevalleytools.com for various cyclone tops in 2 inch or 4 inch sizes. Use a metal garbage can under the cyclone top, not a plastic can which can't handle the vacuum/air pressure without collapsing. (Ask me how I know that.) Lee Valley has I think two sizes of cyclone top for different size garbage cans/drums, in clear and black, in addition to the 2inch/4inch options.
- Put the Festool dust collector in place of the Rigid vacuum;
- Put a portable dust collector with 4 inch ports in place of the Rigid vacuum.
The trick is to pick the right cyclone lid for your needs.
So why do I say go with a Rigid vacuum and a cyclone lid? Fairly quiet and powerful vac, very well made cyclone lid. When faced with replacing three hundred pounds of wet sand in my pool filter with new filter media, I connected the Rigid vacuum with a 2 inch hose to a cyclone lid from Lee Valley Tools, which in turn connected to a two inch vac hose. I kept the sand covered with water in the filter from a garden hose, agitated the sand/water as I vacuumed it out, and every bit of the water and sand went into the cyclone/garbage can, none in the vacuum. No problem. Why not tip the filter to clean it out? It would have broken the filter elements inside the filter.
I have several Festool tools, but no Festool dust collector. I connect my tools to the Rigid vacuum which has been adequate for my needs. I've needed to put my money in tools for specific projects and a CTS is a stretch for me to justify. The TS55 sometimes blows dust that is not collected and I suspect a CTS would do a better job. The Rotex has most of the dust picked up just fine with the Rigid vacuum. The anti static Festool hose plugs right into the 2 inch port of the vac.
One last word in favor of the CTS - One of the great values of Festool sanders is in preserving the life of the sanding pads (and reducing heat?) by using efficient dust collection. If you make your money, in part, with sanding, get a CTS with adjustable air flow, not a Rigid vacuum. I'm a part time cabinet maker/wood worker, so it makes sense for me. It also makes sense to me not to connect a floor sander to a CTS, but I don't own either one.
Here are four options:
- Get a Rigid 16 gallon wet/dry vacuum from Home Depot for $99 and connect a Festool Anti Static hose connected to your tool. Or use a 2 inch line connected to it and the tool. (Read on, because this option will clog your Rigid canister filter rapidly);
- Put a cyclone dust collection top in between the vacuum and the tool with a garbage can or drum to catch most of the dust. See http://www.leevalleytools.com for various cyclone tops in 2 inch or 4 inch sizes. Use a metal garbage can under the cyclone top, not a plastic can which can't handle the vacuum/air pressure without collapsing. (Ask me how I know that.) Lee Valley has I think two sizes of cyclone top for different size garbage cans/drums, in clear and black, in addition to the 2inch/4inch options.
- Put the Festool dust collector in place of the Rigid vacuum;
- Put a portable dust collector with 4 inch ports in place of the Rigid vacuum.
The trick is to pick the right cyclone lid for your needs.
So why do I say go with a Rigid vacuum and a cyclone lid? Fairly quiet and powerful vac, very well made cyclone lid. When faced with replacing three hundred pounds of wet sand in my pool filter with new filter media, I connected the Rigid vacuum with a 2 inch hose to a cyclone lid from Lee Valley Tools, which in turn connected to a two inch vac hose. I kept the sand covered with water in the filter from a garden hose, agitated the sand/water as I vacuumed it out, and every bit of the water and sand went into the cyclone/garbage can, none in the vacuum. No problem. Why not tip the filter to clean it out? It would have broken the filter elements inside the filter.
I have several Festool tools, but no Festool dust collector. I connect my tools to the Rigid vacuum which has been adequate for my needs. I've needed to put my money in tools for specific projects and a CTS is a stretch for me to justify. The TS55 sometimes blows dust that is not collected and I suspect a CTS would do a better job. The Rotex has most of the dust picked up just fine with the Rigid vacuum. The anti static Festool hose plugs right into the 2 inch port of the vac.
One last word in favor of the CTS - One of the great values of Festool sanders is in preserving the life of the sanding pads (and reducing heat?) by using efficient dust collection. If you make your money, in part, with sanding, get a CTS with adjustable air flow, not a Rigid vacuum. I'm a part time cabinet maker/wood worker, so it makes sense for me. It also makes sense to me not to connect a floor sander to a CTS, but I don't own either one.
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Actually, with a drum sander(as opposed to a drum floor sander) it does not work very well at all.
I have a CT 33 and if I use it on my Performax drum sander it only works for about 4 boards or so, if that. I would not use it for more than "in a pinch".
I have used a Festool CT33 with a floor sander and it does help with the dust. It is better than just using the bag they give you with the floor sander. Better yet, try to rent one of the floor sanders with the built in cyclone vacs that I have seen at the rental places now.
I have a CT 33 and if I use it on my Performax drum sander it only works for about 4 boards or so, if that. I would not use it for more than "in a pinch".
I have used a Festool CT33 with a floor sander and it does help with the dust. It is better than just using the bag they give you with the floor sander. Better yet, try to rent one of the floor sanders with the built in cyclone vacs that I have seen at the rental places now.
