Wine Cabinets

rnt80

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I started work on two identical wine cabinets this week.  Both will be partially inset in two very large windows.  One side of the plywood partitions will be edged with halfr-round stock, which means each piece will have to be cut to a point on each end....that's going to be a lot of cuts but I think it'll be worth it in the end.
 
Exterior windows? Won't that make the wine subject to higher than optimal temps for storage?
 
fritter63 said:
Exterior windows? Won't that make the wine subject to higher than optimal temps for storage?

The windows are part of an interior enclosure that has windows on two sides, that are the shape of the cabinets, and a large matching glass door.
 
I always love to see your work.  Now I want to see your design sketches too!  Can't wait to see more picts! 

Peter
 
Peter Halle said:
I always love to see your work.  Now I want to see your design sketches too!  Can't wait to see more picts! 

Peter

Seriously! Looks like rnt has some architecture training?....
 
I take it this is probably meant for short-term storage? Otherwise it would br nice to be able to include a means to control temp and humidity changes.
Love the drawing and be sure to post pics of your edge banding detail! :)
 
I'm almost done with the two cabinets - I'll post some pics tomorrow before I install.  The customer wants a tung oil finish on these.  I've never used tung oil and am wondering if I should wait to apply it after they are installed.  I will have to scribe to two walls and apply crown and base as the last steps.
 
I used pure tung oil on the doors and a lot of trim in my house remodel recently - all of it VG fir.  For the trim, I oiled them in place, since I wanted to patch the holes.  For the doors, I oiled most of them in the garage.  It certainly worked better in the garage, since I could position them flat and flood the surfaces to let the oil soak in really well before wiping the excess.

In the end, I don't know if it mattered - some of the doors came out better than the trim, some sections of trim came out better than the doors (fir is funny).  One nice thing about it was going over places that I missed - it blends in really well.  Also, since it soaks in so much, if it gets scuffed, its not as noticeable as surface finishes.  Maybe prefinish it, and touch up any spots where you have to cut or expose raw wood during the install.  Maybe polymerized or modified tung oil would act differently.  I don't know.  This is just my first (but extensive) use of tung oil.

Pure tung oil is slow to dry.  Months after finishing, there are still areas that feel oily, but I got tired of rubbing.  I had a section of ceiling that I wanted to oil, and rather than use tung oil, with the multiple coats and slow drying, I used Rubio Monocoat with an accelerant (it's what I used on the floors).  Looks very similar and was much easier to apply.  But if the client wants tung oil, who are we to argue...

      Scott

 
I used a Mohawk modified tung oil on an urn I build a while back. I did apply about 6 or 7 coats to get a mirror finish but you don't have to go that crazy. I attached a photo so you can see the finish and yes it is empty in the photo [scared] (note this is tung oil over an alcohol based stain)

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Lambeater

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Thanks for the advice on the tung oil.  It sounds like a hybrid version is my best bet.  I think I'll take the advice given here and put a couple of coats on before install and then maybe a final one after it's all in.  I'm waiting on the crown and base still but I plan on installing these on Tuesday or Wednesday.
The half round edging for the plywood went quick than I anticipated but it was still a lot of cuts.  I figured it up and between the two cabs it came in around 550+.  Each piece had to be cut 4 times and that's assuming I didn't have to go back and trim it.  I ended up setting up the Kapex and my tablesaw/mitergauge so that I could go back and forth between the two easily to cut each side of the miter.  The system worked well and, as I mentioned, it went quicker than I thought it would.
 
These came out very nice...I really do like the cornerround miter detail...the fit and finish is suberb.  Thanks for posting this and cannot wait to see the final pics.  Beautiful work.

Scot
 
I've got a coat of oil on these and will add another tomorrow.  I'll take a pic that shows that and the beaded face frame since you can't really see it in this picture.  I'm anxious to get the crown and base since these look naked without them.
 
I got both of these installed today with the help of a fellow teacher.  We had to pull the 5/8" thick glass (which wasn't light) out to get them in.  Both cases have a couple of coats of tung oil on them but I'll have to go back to get a third on them.  The customer really wanted these installed for a big party that they are having tomorrow so I didn't have a chance to put the final coat on.  They are thinking about doing putting walnut panelling along the back wall to tie the whole room together...hopefully that will be what I'm working on next.
 
Dude, wicked awesome project. Those party goers are gonna be staring at your work, which has got to be good. Eric
 
ericbuggeln said:
Dude, wicked awesome project. Those party goers are gonna be staring at your work, which has got to be good. Eric

Thanks, Eric.  Getting referrals would be great but I only had one business card to leave with them :(  I usually keep a bunch in my car but I had to rent a uhaul to deliver the cases yesterday and forgot to take some cards with me.
 
Looks good!
That's an interesting space you fit them into. It looks like a glass room.
The bottles should look stunning in those cases.
Tim
 
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