Woodpeckers OneTime Tool - Festool MFT Layout & Assembly Square (US)

[sprior]

I received mine today, haven't taken it down to the shop yet, but I did notice the dog holes have a little play in them and while the two long perpendicular edges are smooth, the hypotenuse edge has saw marks.  Also the small relief corner between the perpenduicular faces has CNC tool marks.

I sent them an email asking if they consider this to be within spec.

Steve

 

[sprior]

I noticed that the dog holes have a lot of play in them compared to the ones in the MFT - both Qwas dogs and the Woodpecker provided ones felt loose in the square.  Enough slack that I'd be hesitant to use them as an angle reference. 

I also got a reply today from Woodpeckers saying that while they tried to minimize the saw marks in the hypotenuse side of the square they were not able to remove them all and consider it within spec.

This is the first Woodpeckers tool I'm a bit disappointed with the quality of, though I'll keep it since the primary reason I bought it was for squaring the MFT.

 

[reible]

Woodpecker got back to me.  They will pull a square then try it on the 3 MFT's they have and have it looked at optically.  If it passes then they will ship it to me for my testing.  Seems reasonable.  Having two to compare should tell me if they will work for what I hoped for or not.  I can always return them if not.

The apparent slop in the square's holes are how I think they take care of the inconsistencies that occur in MFT's.  What effect that has on using to square to the holes is something I don't know.  I did use it to verify my table settings after checking that with the Anderson square and that seemed right on.  When the new one arrives I will see how it does using the holes to get a square setup.  Mine MFT seems to hold alignment but I like to check it before starting to use it.  I'm not looking for thousands of an inch here but I still want it to be reasonable for woodworking.

They said it will take several days for it to be checked out and shipped so perhaps some time next week??

Ed

 

[sancho57]

I got the Anderson Ply square. After squaring my MFT with it, I double checked the MFT using my WP 45CM square and got the exact same results. Its simular to the WP Layout Square and cost about a 3rd of the price.

It has holes in it for using the festool clamps for clamping down on the MFT never used them as I use this square for setting up my MFT.

 

[CBRacerX]

I got the Anderson Ply square. After squaring my MFT with it, I double checked the MFT using my WP 45CM square and got the exact same results. Its simular to the WP Layout Square and cost about a 3rd of the price.

It has holes in it for using the festool clamps for clamping down on the MFT never used them as I use this square for setting up my MFT.

They just sold another one...

 

[Mike Upstate]

Shane,

Any update on delivery/order status of this item,  see that Woodpeckers web site indictes they are now shipping.  The Tool-Nut order status shows no update and customer service is unavailable due to high call volume.

Thanks

 

[Shane Holland]

[member=55105]Mike Upstate[/member], I have been told that Woodpeckers expects to ship inventory to us in mid-June. I am contacting them to ask why their website states shipping now when we're a month away from getting inventory. I'll keep you posted if I get any other information.

Shane

 

[RustE]

... Woodpeckers expects to ship inventory to us in mid-June ...

If I recall correctly, early May was the delivery timeframe when I placed my order.  Hopefully you can get some better info for us.

 

[BadRobot]

... Woodpeckers expects to ship inventory to us in mid-June ...

If I recall correctly, early May was the delivery timeframe when I placed my order.  Hopefully you can get some better info for us.

I received it by the end of April.

 

[ProCarpenterRVA]

I got mine last week. Very thick, solid, accurate square and of course, the red anodized dogs. Great buy!

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[Shane Holland]

Guys, I did reach out to Woodpeckers and found that there's a pretty long window for shipment on these, and they are running late shipping them.

I asked where our order was in the queue and was told that we are among the very first that they ship OneTime Tools to. When we receive OneTime Tool orders from Woodpeckers we turn them around to our customers usually the next day.

That said, I suspect they ship to folks that buy direct first. It's always hard to compete against a manufacturer that sell direct for reasons like this. It may mean we lose your order in the future, but I hope that's not the case. The reality is that OneTime Tools are something you'll have to wait many months to receive. And, there are times that, due to unforeseen manufacturing complications, there are delays.

If you're in a hurry for such a tool, it may be best to find one something that's not made-to-order.

We appreciate everyone who chooses to order from us. You help support me and my family, so thank you.  [not worthy]

 

[Cheese]

I received mine about a month ago, it’s very nice and robust...definitely worth the wait. Sometimes this OTT thing works out when referencing the time line, sometimes not. I’m still waiting for the 20mm hole boring jig that I ordered directly from Woodpeckers and was supposed to ship in February.

I also received in March, some other items that weren’t supposed to ship until May. Oh well, it is what it is.  [big grin]

 

[RustE]

I ordered the MFT Square from The Tool Nut around the end of January.  While I did not expect to receive mine in early May, I certainly did not anticipate mid to late June.

I understand that problems arise in a production environment.  What I do not like is the lack of communication.  That falls on both The Tool Nut (not Shane) and Woodpeckers.

 

[ProCarpenterRVA]

I received mine about a month ago, it’s very nice and robust...definitely worth the wait. Sometimes this OTT thing works out when referencing the time line, sometimes not. I’m still waiting for the 20mm hole boring jig that I ordered directly from Woodpeckers and was supposed to ship in February.

I also received in March, some other items that weren’t supposed to ship until May. Oh well, it is what it is.  [big grin]

I'm jonesin' for that hole drilling jig. I love making mft slabs[emoji39]

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[Shane Holland]

I understand that problems arise in a production environment.  What I do not like is the lack of communication.  That falls on both The Tool Nut (not Shane) and Woodpeckers.

[member=63201]RustE[/member], I completely agree. That was precisely one of the points in my email to them. That, if they determine there will be delays, that we need timely notification. With that information, we will be able to inform our customers of the delay. There were several other points of feedback that I gave that will hopefully improve things that I don't think need to be shared.

Shane

 

[scary]

"Sometime" tools?

Too soon?

 

[Mike Upstate]

Shane,

  This will is my fourth "one-time" tool order,  but it will be my last. 

 

[RustE]

Just to keep things interesting:

I received the Woodpecker’s OneTime Edge Tool Sharpening Guide this week.  My order was placed with Festool Products in early March.

Still no news on the MFT Layout & Assembly Square that I ordered in late January.

 

[jimbo51]

If my eyes did not deceive me, I saw two MFT square on the shelf at Woodcraft in Allentown PA.

 

[southrider]

Have to start calling them "whenever" tools. Over the last 10 years I have NEVER gotten one on time, and the schedule seems to be slipping more each year.

No fault of the Tool Nut. I use them for these tools because of the free shipping.

With all that said - when I do decide to order one of these I know all this in advance - so there's no reason to get anxious or angry over the delays. If something is compelling enough to order, and not available competitively elsewhere it's a choice whether to put up with woodpeckers schedule and high prices. Kind of like buying Festool and then griping about it. Caveat Emptor!

Is is what it is, and out of my control.