Worn out Festools?...

[clisbyclark]

Has anyone ever seen a "dead" Festool product other than consumables?  Just asking.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Complete oxymoron. "Worn out" and "festools" in the same phrase, have you ever?   ;D

Give my two cents... we have Festool products dating back over 50 years old in our office here in Indy and they all still run.  Check out the section of our most recent newsletter which addresses Festool's commitment to manufacturing tools that are meant to last and having the spare parts to keep them running for decades to come.

Of course, I'm sure you will get some opinions from sources considered less biased as well.

Shane

 

[Eli]

I saw a pneumatic sander that needed new vanes. Hardly worn out though, that's serviceable. I heard a rumor about a countertop company that killed TS55's, but no first hand sighting of dead machines.

 

[Steveo48]

Complete oxymoron. "Worn out" and "festools" in the same phrase, have you ever?   ;D

Give my two cents... we have Festool products dating back over 50 years old in our office here in Indy and they all still run.  Check out the section of our most recent newsletter which addresses Festool's commitment to manufacturing tools that are meant to last and having the spare parts to keep them running for decades to come.

Of course, I'm sure you will get some opinions from sources considered less biased as well.

Shane

There are still a lot of old (40 YO and more) power tools out there.  I still have my dads craftsman routers and drill motor, GAWD are they HEAVY!  The old stuff isn't as handy to use as the newer units are, but their lifetime frequently outlasted their first owner.  A lot of grey hairs like me still have dads ald tools in the shop.

Steve

 

[Programmergeek]

I have seen alot that should be dead, at least I feel sorry for them after I see waht some of these people put them through.  But none dead, if I was put through waht some of these tools are I would be dead. 

 

[Jerry Work]

Hi Eli,

The saws didn't die, but a few solid surface guys found that the dust would cause wear on the rail guides in the base of the saws they used day in and day out to cut this stuff.  Some of the pros on this group have reported similar wear on saws used to cut "miles" of wood using the guide rail.  That is why the base was redesigned on the newest saws to reduce wear in that area.  Good continuous improvement engineering in my book. 

Jerry

I saw a pneumatic sander that needed new vanes. Hardly worn out though, that's serviceable. I heard a rumor about a countertop company that killed TS55's, but no first hand sighting of dead machines.

 

[Eli]

Jerry-
I was actually talking about a solid surface company here in Australia that cuts granite and neglected to have their motor bearings serviced, instead using the saws until the motors fused, making the cheaper option to replace instead of repair. End user neglect, not Festool fault. No idea why they wouldn't have a few extra saws so some can be serviced while others are making money.

 

[Jerry Work]

Wow, cutting granite without servicing bearings?????!!!!!  Sounds like it would be easier to do the underwater cut 10mm plate steel with a wood blade trick.  Happy holiday all!

Jerry

Jerry-
I was actually talking about a solid surface company here in Australia that cuts granite and neglected to have their motor bearings serviced, instead using the saws until the motors fused, making the cheaper option to replace instead of repair. End user neglect, not Festool fault. No idea why they wouldn't have a few extra saws so some can be serviced while others are making money.

 

[Eli]

Wow, cutting granite without servicing bearings?????!!!!!  Sounds like it would be easier to do the underwater cut 10mm plate steel with a wood blade trick.  Happy holiday all!

Jerry

I know, they sounded quite daft to me. Like using a Bentley to plow the driveway.

Not solid granite of course, granite composite.

 

[Tinker]

Wow, cutting granite without servicing bearings?????!!!!!  Sounds like it would be easier to do the underwater cut 10mm plate steel with a wood blade trick.  Happy holiday all!

Jerry

I know, they sounded quite daft to me. Like using a Bentley to plow the driveway.

Not solid granite of course, granite composite.

you mean nobody uses a Bently to plow their driveways?!!!

I had an 8-1/4" Milwaukee circular saw that I used for only cutting masonry materials, lumber impregnated with cement and nails.  The darned piece of junk only lasted for 30 years of day in and day out use before it finally caught fire.  A couple of years later, a Milwaukee salesman contacted me to try to sell me something i did not need anymore as i was no longer in contracting business.  I started giving him a hard time about the poor quality of that old dead 8-1/4" saw in my shed and how it just did not stand up to the strain.  I think he took me seriously as he got off the phone pretty quick and never called back. 

I would not use my ATF 55 for any of the above mentioned purposes.  I just don't know how i would survive if it only lasted 30 years  :-[
Tinker

 

[UtahAV]

I sold Festool at a Festool retailer for just over a year. I have since let the powertool biz and miss it terribly. Anyway, I did see a couple of worn out tools. I would have to contribute the cause of death on both of them to being used in ways they shouldn't have been. One ETS150 that was being used in the hardwood flooring industry. They where using it HARD without dust extraction and it was cooked. They didn't complain, just bought another one. The other was an OF2000 Router. It was sold to a pallet making company by a co-worker of mine at the time. Unfortunately the co-worker had about as much knowledge of Festool as I have about astrophysics.  ;D  He sold it to them to make the cut outs on the underside of the rails on a pallet. It just couldn't handle the 1.5" wide, 10" long, single pass cuts in 2" thick, green hardwood.  :

I sure do miss selling Festool. I figure in the year I was able to sell their products I must have sold 4 or 5 hundred tools. Only saw the two come back. Lets just say that Dewalt and Porter Cable didn't have those kind of odds.... 

-UtahAV
-Mark

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Complete oxymoron. "Worn out" and "festools" in the same phrase, have you ever?   ;D

Give my two cents... we have Festool products dating back over 50 years old in our office here in Indy and they all still run.  Check out the section of our most recent newsletter which addresses Festool's commitment to manufacturing tools that are meant to last and having the spare parts to keep them running for decades to come.

Of course, I'm sure you will get some opinions from sources considered less biased as well.

Shane

There are still a lot of old (40 YO and more) power tools out there.  I still have my dads craftsman routers and drill motor, GAWD are they HEAVY!  The old stuff isn't as handy to use as the newer units are, but their lifetime frequently outlasted their first owner.  A lot of grey hairs like me still have dads ald tools in the shop.

Steve

I still have my father's Souix drill and U.S. Master (U.S. Motor?) drill, and both run fine, although their aluminum cases look like they have been through a war or two.  My father was born in 1910 and was a professional mechanic and commercial carrier truck owner/operator, so these tools saw a lot of heavy duty use.  And I still have my father-in-laws early model Milwaukee Sawzall.  The case is corroded through in a few places, but it still runs smoothly and quietly, like an old Singer sewing machine.  He was owner of a farm equipment business - selling and installing systems for raising livestock, milking cows, etc.  He came to much prefer Milwaukee tools because they had the highest survival rate when dropped by his workers from the tops of silos.  I still use that Sawzall and the smaller drill, but that big one with the gear train that runs in hypoid gear oil and has a square recess chuck scares me.  He used it to install 2X oak flooring on trailers using hardened self-tapping screws.  Serious torque output from that large puppy, and a 10/3 power cord.

Dave R.

 

[AZSportsFan]

I sold Festool at a Festool retailer for just over a year. I have since let the powertool biz and miss it terribly. Anyway, I did see a couple of worn out tools. I would have to contribute the cause of death on both of them to being used in ways they shouldn't have been. One ETS150 that was being used in the hardwood flooring industry. They where using it HARD without dust extraction and it was cooked. They didn't complain, just bought another one. The other was an OF2000 Router. It was sold to a pallet making company by a co-worker of mine at the time. Unfortunately the co-worker had about as much knowledge of Festool as I have about astrophysics.  ;D  He sold it to them to make the cut outs on the underside of the rails on a pallet. It just couldn't handle the 1.5" wide, 10" long, single pass cuts in 2" thick, green hardwood.  :

I sure do miss selling Festool. I figure in the year I was able to sell their products I must have sold 4 or 5 hundred tools. Only saw the two come back. Lets just say that Dewalt and Porter Cable didn't have those kind of odds....   

-UtahAV
-Mark

Where did you work, Mark?  M&M Tools & Machinery?

 

[UtahAV]

I sold Festool at a Festool retailer for just over a year. I have since let the powertool biz and miss it terribly. Anyway, I did see a couple of worn out tools. I would have to contribute the cause of death on both of them to being used in ways they shouldn't have been. One ETS150 that was being used in the hardwood flooring industry. They where using it HARD without dust extraction and it was cooked. They didn't complain, just bought another one. The other was an OF2000 Router. It was sold to a pallet making company by a co-worker of mine at the time. Unfortunately the co-worker had about as much knowledge of Festool as I have about astrophysics.  ;D  He sold it to them to make the cut outs on the underside of the rails on a pallet. It just couldn't handle the 1.5" wide, 10" long, single pass cuts in 2" thick, green hardwood.  :

I sure do miss selling Festool. I figure in the year I was able to sell their products I must have sold 4 or 5 hundred tools. Only saw the two come back. Lets just say that Dewalt and Porter Cable didn't have those kind of odds.... 

-UtahAV
-Mark

Where did you work, Mark?  M&M Tools & Machinery?

Ya, I worked there for about 5 years

-UtahAV
-Mark

 

[Toolpig]

I've seen Porter Cable, Delta, Powermatic, etc. machines that are 40-50 years old and still run today.

Only time will tell.

TP

Complete oxymoron. "Worn out" and "festools" in the same phrase, have you ever?   ;D

Give my two cents... we have Festool products dating back over 50 years old in our office here in Indy and they all still run.  Check out the section of our most recent newsletter which addresses Festool's commitment to manufacturing tools that are meant to last and having the spare parts to keep them running for decades to come.

Of course, I'm sure you will get some opinions from sources considered less biased as well.

Shane