1500 rail

[Coen]

Enough with the "just a bit too short" FS 1400/2 guiderails. Festool should close the gap with the competition and also go to 1500 or 1600mm!

 

[Hipplewm]

What is wrong with the 1900?

 

[Crazyraceguy]

What is wrong with the 1900?

Nothing! I love mine, but strictly speaking, it is a bit much, for simple cross-cuts in typical 4' x 8' (1220mm x 2440mm) sheet goods. The 1400 is barely (not really) long enough, even with a TS 55, which is why the TS 75 comes with the 1900.
There are guys out there in vans, who could use a little more, but 1900 might be too hard to store?
I like the idea, especially if it came as the KP. I'm looking for a good enough reason to get one of those.

 

[tjbnwi]

Nothing a saw could not solve. Cut many rails using the Kapex.

Tom

 

[Crazyraceguy]

That would cause me great emotional damage. Even though @mino has gone into great detail about cutting rails into very specific lengths, I just can't do it.

 

[tjbnwi]

No detail needed, measure the desired length, cut.

I bet I have at least 20 rails that have been cut to various lengths, think of it as a two for one sale……

Cut one of my 16’ers to 14’

Tom

 

[Crazyraceguy]

You have more than one LS 5000? and cut one...............ah
Those things are irreplaceable. I haven't even seen one in several years. The local supplier had one in stock (displayed) for years. They did sell it occasionally, and replace it. The last time was the last time. That was over 2 years ago, maybe even three? I'm sure they are a pain to handle though.

 

[tjbnwi]

You have more than one LS 5000? and cut one...............ah
Those things are irreplaceable. I haven't even seen one in several years. The local supplier had one in stock (displayed) for years. They did sell it occasionally, and replace it. The last time was the last time. That was over 2 years ago, maybe even three? I'm sure they are a pain to handle though.

I have two we use in the shop, I cut one of them.

I bought the last two Festool had when they discontinued them. Those two are still in the shipping crates. I own 4 total.

We straight line a lot of material 14+ feet long.

Not hard to handle in a large shop, even the girls use them when necessary.

Tom

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Wow, ok. There were a few times when I had to join another rail to my 3000, which was quite annoying, but nowhere near often enough to spend the money for a 5000.
In a commercial environment, I'm sure it's worth having one.

 

[tjbnwi]

Wow, ok. There were a few times when I had to join another rail to my 3000, which was quite annoying, but nowhere near often enough to spend the money for a 5000.
In a commercial environment, I'm sure it's worth having one.

I’ve said it many times, ultimately, I’m just a lazy person.

Tom

 

[Coen]

Now that I'm thinking of it; also a bag to fit the 1500 (or 1600, Festool's choice, hehe).

What is wrong with the 1900?

On it's own nothing, besides not being available in LR-32. Paired with the 1080 it's also a very nice set.

Other than that; it isn't included with the 55 saws (only with TSV 60) and it's "too long" for the regular square cuts on the regular 1220mm wide stuff.

But bonus it's one of the three sizes Festool offers a bag for.

Nothing a saw could not solve. Cut many rails using the Kapex.

Tom

Yes, that drives up the cost quite a bit.

A Festool TS 55 with rails is already significantly more expensive than a Makita SP6000, but if you then have to go out and buy a 1900 rail separately to fix the disappointingly too short rail that was included in the set... it goes next level..

I have friends asking what saw to buy... and it's just ridiculous that even if I convince them to buy the Festool... I have to tell them the rail is too short... and other Makita customer was spawned...

Makita; 1500
Bosch: 1600
Mafell: 1600
Triton (exact same profile as Festool!): 1500
Dewalt: 1500

Only Festool and Milwaukee are stuck on 1400. I don't think I've ever seen a Milwaukee rail saw in the wild, so I guess they are still clearing out their 10 year old stock. But Festool? Come on.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Only Festool and Milwaukee are stuck on 1400. I don't think I've ever seen a Milwaukee rail saw in the wild, so I guess they are still clearing out their 10 year old stock. But Festool? Come on.

My former apprentice has one, plus 2 tracks/bag. He ran into a rather unique problem though. The place that had the saw, didn't have any tracks. He bought the tracks at a place that didn't have a saw. All local retailers, he's a bit Amazon phobic

 

[rst]

My first foray into track saws was a recon Makita, that I bought to see what the fuss was about. I had a PM 66 that I added a Jet articulating table that I expanded with 8020 so it would cut off 48”, mostly plastics I was fabbing. Hearmance Machine in Williamsport, PA, 45 minutes from me has a Rockler and sold Festool. My first rails were Festool and I have all but the 106 & that 16’er. Rockler had one hanging on the wall for years but finally disappeared. I asked about it and they said someone bought and cut it into two sizes.

 

[bertv]

I once knicked a 1400 in use (yeah – user error…) and have cut out the offensive part, resulting in a 800 mm long rail that is 'for ever' connected to a squaring up accessory, and a 600 mm short end that I mostly use for checking flatness and scribing. Sawing a rail on a Kapex is no hassle; getting rid of a visible oopsy totally worth the effort.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Rockler had one hanging on the wall for years but finally disappeared. I asked about it and they said someone bought and cut it into two sizes.

That has to be the most expensive way there is to get two multiple smaller rails. Those 5M rails had quite a price on them. I'm sure part of it had to do with losses/damage.