2P-10

[MahalaHomecraft]

So I'm sure at least some of you are familiar with 2P-10.  I use it pretty often and it's definitely extremely useful in many situations... I feel like it can be pretty brittle though.  I use their jël thickness with the activator and they claim full cure within something like 5 minutes.  When I prefab molding I'll usually give it about an hour, and I still sometimes have separation issues during installation.  I don't know if it's just me, or if perhaps this happens less with a thinner solution, just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this.

 

[junk731]

I found similar problems maybe its age dependent. Also as a side note don't rely on it for long term holding. We find because its so brittle after about 6 months or a major seasonal change the joints fail.

John

 

[mastercabman]

I have used the 2p 10 before and I had mix results.So I stopped using it.
Maybe I was doing something wrong.But I also had to go behind a few guys that did use that product and had to fix/reglue joints and parts

 

[semenza]

One thing to keep in mind is that it is cyanoacrylate (super glue) so there are actually a lot of brands to choose from. Never used the 2 P 10 specifically so I can't really comment on it in particular.

The thinner it is the more it will soak into the wood as opposed to sit on the surface. Age of the glue will make a difference especially after the container has been unsealed. Also the activator will make a more brittle bond. If it is taking more than a few minutes to cure it is probably too old. The activator should make it pretty much instant but with the afore mentioned brittleness.  Another thing to be careful about is that you get the pieces together fast. I have had bonds fail because the glue had started to set faster than I got the parts together. In that case they stick but are not really bonded well.

I am not sure if one of the 2 p 10s is a flex type or not. But they do exist. Bob Smith Industries make a very complete line that includes two that have rubber  added to allow them to have some give. Those two also bond better (pretty well) to plastics that have vinyl in them. I have found the BSI to be a good brand overall. Probably due to strength of formula and freshness.

Seth

 

[MahalaHomecraft]

Thanks guys, I knew I was asking in the right place!  I'll check out that BSI glue... Typically I like to use good ole fashioned titebond but sometimes the instant set is handy.

 

[Jalvis]

I've tried to find a good use for 2p-10 and have the assortment kit.  Yet to find a good application.  The stuff dries way too fast and is brittle.  I've given up and decided its not worth the fight.

 

[semenza]

I haven't used super glue for any real trim pieces. Just small light weight add-ons and other odd ball items. EX- gluing plugs into holes, small bits of trim , keeping a shim where I want it, repair of edge banding.

Seth

 

[Deansocial]

I only use that sort of glue for cornice and pelmet on a kitchen but that's normally mdf. That's only thing it gets used on

 

[MahalaHomecraft]

I use it a lot on things like 1/4 rounds, shoe moldings, and small outside corners.  I've used it on bigger stuff too and it works really well for pre-fabbing several small pieces together and installing then as a unit when dry time is limited.  In particular, it can't be beat for dead-end returns.  Here are a couple examples on some pre-finished cabinet trim.  For stuff like this I never hesitate to go for the 2P-10.

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