Adding a plug-it cord port to the TS60

[friedchicken]

It's my understanding the TS60 has a fixed cord b/c of u.s. power regulations for removable plugs. The rest of the world has one with a plug-it cord.
I don't really care for the regulations our wonderful federal bureaucracy imposes on us, so would happily install my own.

What this means: there's certainly a plug-it adapter part available, probably from europe, unless 240v plug-it adapters have a different connection?

Certainly this can be swapped out, but is it economical/easy? Has anyone looked into what parts might be necessary? Here's the European TS60 with its plug-it adapter:

 

[onocoffee]

I think CRG may have done this. You’ll have to order parts from Europe and for certain this will void your U.S. warranty. And even if the European machines are 240v you could just wire those outlets to match the black and white wire we use in the USA.

 

[peter halle]

As a Moderator I should do the obligatory warning about modifying a Festool tool, especially an electrical tool. Certainly there could be a warranty issue and always work safely.

Peter

 

[friedchicken]

I think CRG may have done this. You’ll have to order parts from Europe and for certain this will void your U.S. warranty. And even if the European machines are 240v you could just wire those outlets to match the black and white wire we use in the USA.

U.S. law comes through on the warranty, if something breaks under warranty that's clearly not affected by the modification, the warranty still holds. I.e. if I add a plug-it cord and the base splits in half somehow, warranty still needs to cover this. I'm pretty sure. If, on the other hand, the modification provably causes a fault that would otherwise be warrantied, obviously there's no obligation for the warrant to cover that.

As a Moderator I should do the obligatory warning about modifying a Festool tool, especially an electrical tool. Certainly there could be a warranty issue and always work safely.

Peter

Thank you for pre-empting this warning, since I know someone will chime in here about this.

I just want to know what the parts are.

Although now I'm really starting to wonder: with the brushless motor, are the tools identical? Can the AC-DC converter handle 120-240VAC??

Found a thread on the matter:

Post in thread 'TS60 110volt in the US. Plug-it installed'

Jun 12, 2023

The Plug-it connector came in today, as a bit of a surprise. I never did get a shipping notification?
I wish I could say it was a 1 minute operation, like it should have been, but it did take a bit more to get it installed. For some crazy reason, the spade connectors of the Plug-it fitting were smaller than the ones on the cord/machine. It only took a few minutes to put some new ones on and reassemble it.
It works just fine, but is not a 100% bolt-on.
I also found out today that when you bevel the saw to 45 degrees it still falls over, so that's a plus  [big grin]

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[onocoffee]

Parts? I was curious, so I had a look at EKAT briefly. While it starts at FTUSA, it redirects to Festool.de but the only results it shows me are US versions of the tool. You may have different results if you do a search there via VPN from a European country.

Once you get the parts numbers, I’m not sure how you would go about ordering them in the United States and who would ship parts here. That’s something the other guys might know about.

And whether or not the power supplies with take 120-240v is something you might be able to sis out when you start taking it apart.

 

[peter halle]

Parts? I was curious, so I had a look at EKAT briefly. While it starts at FTUSA, it redirects to Festool.de but the only results it shows me are US versions of the tool. You may have different results if you do a search there via VPN from a European country.

Once you get the parts numbers, I’m not sure how you would go about ordering them in the United States and who would ship parts here. That’s something the other guys might know about.

And whether or not the power supplies with take 120-240v is something you might be able to sis out when you start taking it apart.

Go to the Festool.uk website for stuff like this. You can find the 110 volt TS-60 there. Once you have the part numbers you need then you'll have to find someone willing to help you acquire and ship.

Peter

 

[friedchicken]

I could easily get the part from Germany; in the thread I linked someone just used ts55/ts75 plug-it adapter.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

It's just a replacement part for a TS75. Any of the local dealers can order parts for you. Mine came from Highland Woodworking, because they had it in stock, at the time. The part number is listed somewhere in the original post. I have been using it, in a big commercial cabinet shop for over 2 years. Though electrical concerns are quoted, it has never been a problem. As stated, it would very likely be a warranty issue, if something were to happen. Most people would not take the risk, with such an expensive item.

 

[friedchicken]

It's just a replacement part for a TS75. Any of the local dealers can order parts for you. Mine came from Highland Woodworking, because they had it in stock, at the time. The part number is listed somewhere in the original post. I have been using it, in a big commercial cabinet shop for over 2 years. Though electrical concerns are quoted, it has never been a problem. As stated, it would very likely be a warranty issue, if something were to happen. Most people would not take the risk, with such an expensive item.

So it's the identical part # to the TS75? They didn't use a separate one?

 

[Hipplewm]

So it's the identical part # to the TS75? They didn't use a separate one?

It not identical, you have to modify slightly - go read the other threead it is documented on EXACTLY HOW to do it in fine detail. It took me about 20 minutes to do the procedure. If I have a warranty issue, it is about 20 minutes to put everything back the way it was.

The only time it would even remotely be a concern is cutting max depth hardwood or maybe pinching a blade - if you plunge and run to full speed before entering wood, it would take an unordinary thing to make the wattage max out as it has a soft start anyway.

I decided I no longer cared when a guy uses it in a production shop for 2+ years with no issues and that poor saw has already seen more hours than mine probably will before I die.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

So it's the identical part # to the TS75? They didn't use a separate one?

"They" didn't use anything. The 120v model never had one. Even the UK 110v has a fixed cable.
This is simply a modification, using other machine's parts. It's not an exact-fit, the spade connectors are different, and need to be changed.
Again, I don't recommend this. I did it to a tool that was already out of warranty.

 

[friedchicken]

"They" didn't use anything. The 120v model never had one. Even the UK 110v has a fixed cable.
This is simply a modification, using other machine's parts. It's not an exact-fit, the spade connectors are different, and need to be changed.
Again, I don't recommend this. I did it to a tool that was already out of warranty.

I mean to say, if you look up the parts diagram for a plug-it TS60, it'll have the differences and the parts can merely be bought. This is an extremely trivial thing to do, like easier than legos. The risk of running too much current through the plug-it cable I am entirely unconcerned about, based on both what you've reported, as well as what I know about electricity.

I mean jesus christ, this is like 1+1 = 2 modification. If someone can't do something like this, they probably shouldn't be trusted with an electric toothbrush, let alone a handsaw or any other sort of power tool.

 

[Coen]

I mean to say, if you look up the parts diagram for a plug-it TS60, it'll have the differences and the parts can merely be bought.

A 230V version? What good will that do you?

I mean jesus christ, this is like 1+1 = 2 modification. If someone can't do something like this, they probably shouldn't be trusted with an electric toothbrush, let alone a handsaw or any other sort of power tool.

I nominate you. How many times do people have to spell out you have to use the part from the 110V TS55/TS75 ? Oh and leave Christ out of it.

 

[friedchicken]

A 230V version? What good will that do you?

An OEM plug-it connector.

 

[Vtshopdog]

I mean to say, if you look up the parts diagram for a plug-it TS60, it'll have the differences and the parts can merely be bought. This is an extremely trivial thing to do, like easier than legos. The risk of running too much current through the plug-it cable I am entirely unconcerned about, based on both what you've reported, as well as what I know about electricity.

I mean jesus christ, this is like 1+1 = 2 modification. If someone can't do something like this, they probably shouldn't be trusted with an electric toothbrush, let alone a handsaw or any other sort of power tool.

Ummm…..just do it then???

 

[Coen]

An OEM plug-it connector.

That won't fit your American Plug-It cord.

 

[friedchicken]

That won't fit your American Plug-It cord.

Are they different?

 

[peter halle]

Are they different?

Yes I believe.

 

[friedchicken]

Oh. I was wondering about that case. Well in that case I can see if there are any case differences or something from the Euro TS60, and can use the TS75 plug-it adapter.

Or I can just get a TS55 and call it done. Maybe prices will come down now that there's a new king.

 

[peter halle]

Prices never come down. I would venture a guess that price increases will be coming Jan to better reflect the influence of today's economic climate better than the reactionary increases of last year.