Adding green glide strips to old-style Guide Rail?

[JeffeVerde]

Has anyone tried adding the green glide strips to an old-style rail?  I've got an old-style 10' rail that's still straight and works fine.  I hate to grind the nice base of  my TS75 across the old guide, but it's hard to justify a new 3000 rail, when the old one still does it's job.  Wondering if I couldn't solve the problem by adding the glide strips to it.

 

[Ned]

Spraying the rail with Bostik's TopCote every now and then will help.  Google will turn up a number of sources, including Rockler.

A year or two ago there was a problem with selling this stuff in California--apparently it was not warning-labeled to the satisfaction of our protector, the state. 

That's been resolved and it should now be available over the counter again.

 

[Hoover]

Spraying the rail with Bostik's TopCote every now and then will help.  Google will turn up a number of sources, including Rockler.

A year or two ago there was a problem with selling this stuff in California--apparently it was not warning-labeled to the satisfaction of our protector, the state. 

That's been resolved and it should now be available over the counter again.

California should just tell people EVERYTHING is known to cause cancer to California and save time.  My favorite is a lawsuit (I believe its still in the courts now) where potato chips and french fries will need the label "known to cause cancer to the state of California" since there is some chemical produced when you fry potatoes.  The label is one of the most moronic things to come from CA.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Has anyone tried adding the green glide strips to an old-style rail?  I've got an old-style 10' rail that's still straight and works fine.  I hate to grind the nice base of  my TS75 across the old guide...Wondering if I couldn't solve the problem by adding the glide strips to it.

You probably already realize that adding the green strips will raise the saw so it will cut into the rubber when beveling, so, the suggested lube is best.

 

[Dave Rudy]

A year or two ago there was a problem with selling this stuff in California--apparently it was not warning-labeled to the satisfaction of our protector, the state. 

Those of us who lived through Proposition 65 remember ....  For those of you who don't live in or frequent California, catch this:  EVERY high-rise building in the State, AFAIK, has a "warning" label at the door, something like: "This building contains substances known to the State of California to cause cancer."  If the guardian state had its way, I guess nobody would ever enter a highrise building -- wonder what that would do to the state's economy?

 

[JeffeVerde]

Has anyone tried adding the green glide strips to an old-style rail?  I've got an old-style 10' rail that's still straight and works fine.  I hate to grind the nice base of  my TS75 across the old guide...Wondering if I couldn't solve the problem by adding the glide strips to it.

You probably already realize that adding the green strips will raise the saw so it will cut into the rubber when beveling, so, the suggested lube is best.

I hadn't thought about that.  But that raises an interesting question.  Maintaining a zero cut-line at any bevel requires the saws sole plate to be at a specific height above the cut surface (and the rubber edge strip).  Raise the sole plate and the cut-line in relation to top plane of the material being cut moves towards the rail -- lower it, and it moves away from the rail.

Eyeballing the profile of the old and new rails, the extrusion of the old rail doesn't look thicker then the new.  That makes me wonder if the opposite of the point you raised isn't the case, and the TS on an old rail (without the green glide strips) isn't actually sitting lower than on a new rail (with strips) - thus moving the cut line slightly away from the rubber strip.

I'll have to mic the old and new rails and see if there's a difference in thickness.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Has anyone tried adding the green glide strips to an old-style rail?  I've got an old-style 10' rail that's still straight and works fine.  I hate to grind the nice base of  my TS75 across the old guide...Wondering if I couldn't solve the problem by adding the glide strips to it.

You probably already realize that adding the green strips will raise the saw so it will cut into the rubber when beveling, so, the suggested lube is best.

I hadn't thought about that.  But that raises an interesting question.  Maintaining a zero cut-line at any bevel requires the saws sole plate to be at a specific height above the cut surface (and the rubber edge strip).  Raise the sole plate and the cut-line in relation to top plane of the material being cut moves towards the rail -- lower it, and it moves away from the rail.

Eyeballing the profile of the old and new rails, the extrusion of the old rail doesn't look thicker then the new.  That makes me wonder if the opposite of the point you raised isn't the case, and the TS on an old rail (without the green glide strips) isn't actually sitting lower than on a new rail (with strips) - thus moving the cut line slightly away from the rubber strip.

I'll have to mic the old and new rails and see if there's a difference in thickness.

Great question, I'd like to know the answer too. The new guide rails were available here (NA) well before the TS saws so I would assume the guide rails work equally well for both models of saws, ATF and TS. My eyeball assessment is that the extrusions are different so maybe the engineers did account for the thickness of the green glide strip.

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Spraying the rail with Bostik's TopCote every now and then will help.  Google will turn up a number of sources, including Rockler.

A year or two ago there was a problem with selling this stuff in California--apparently it was not warning-labeled to the satisfaction of our protector, the state.   

That's been resolved and it should now be available over the counter again.

California should just tell people EVERYTHING is known to cause cancer to California and save time.  My favorite is a lawsuit (I believe its still in the courts now) where potato chips and french fries will need the label "known to cause cancer to the state of California" since there is some chemical produced when you fry potatoes.  The label is one of the most moronic things to come from CA.

Then barbequeing and grilling food of any sort should require similar labels in California.  Maybe the people in government in California should leave so the rest can enjoy their lives.

Dave R.