Advice needed on best stand for traveling Kapex

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I just got a Kapex and almost all of my work is on-site (kitchen and bath installs, general remodel and finish work mostly). So I assume that the best option for easy transport and setup is the UG stand. I've also examined the info about the Ultimate Miter stand.

What are your experiences, advice, thoughts on the pros and cons of these or different setups? I'm moving from the DeWalt saw/stand combo which is ok, but want to find something more accurate/faster/easier to setup that also lets me set a cut length and it be accurate.

Thanks.
 
RonMiller said:
I just got a Kapex and almost all of my work is on-site (kitchen and bath installs, general remodel and finish work mostly). So I assume that the best option for easy transport and setup is the UG stand. I've also examined the info about the Ultimate Miter stand.

What are your experiences, advice, thoughts on the pros and cons of these or different setups? I'm moving from the DeWalt saw/stand combo which is ok, but want to find something more accurate/faster/easier to setup that also lets me set a cut length and it be accurate.

Thanks.
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I would get the Sawhelper that would be first choice, second the portable Kapex stand add wings.
 
I hate to say it due to the price but I'd have to go with the UG stand setup. I went and looked at every stand I could when choosing hoping to avoid the Festool price tag. The nice ones were too big, too heavy, too clumsy. The lighter, smaller ones lack features and didn't seem like they would survive all that well.
Super light, super easy, The extension package fits onto the cart along the side. You can roll the entire set-up right in.
Just looking at the price compared to other stands, the price is insane. Looking at what it provides though makes the price more palatable.
The only downsides I've felt so far with the UG stand are the wheels and the narrow supports. The wheels are fine overall but I would prefer fatter, softer wheels.
The support width is fine overall but when cutting x10 or x12 its a bit narrow. Of course others will tell you if you clamp down your material it isn't an issue. Like I have time for that on every cut; and yes I still have all my fingers.
 
Does anyone own the "trimming attachments" from Festool? I presume they're different and not as portable as the ones that go with the UG stand?

SawHelper probably isn't an option for me since they have apparently been out of business for several years and I'm not in a location where I'm likely to find them on craigslist or similar.
 
Only one of my Kapex leaves my shop. It has a UG stand with extensions and a CT36. Generally that Kapex is on sites 2 days a week. All of us who have used this Kapex and the UG like the system.
 
Chris Rosenberger said:
I have 3 stands for my Kapex. I have a Saw Helper, a Dewalt DW723 & a Dewalt DWX726.

I use the Saw Helper when cutting heavy material.

I use the Dewalt 723 the most. I use it when I am doing light framing & for trim work.

I use the Dewalt DWX726 when I am doing light framing & for trim work, on jobs where I will be moving the saw a lot.

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How did you fix it to the dewalt 723? I'm looking to do the same with mine
 
i dont think you can beat the ug stand, its small and mobile.

stands like the dewalt etc still means you need to carry the stand then go back and carry the saw in
 
i have the dewalt stand for my dewalt saws (718 xrp and a small one too) it was a long one but a loose depth knob on a skil saw shortened it accidentally  so i cut it through trying to make it into a shorter version(doesnt work great ,dont try it,  the brackets arent the same a shorter version).
i like the dewalt stand  because its light and small i the van. my dewalt table saw on its wheeled stand takes up a lot of room in the van.
i dont like that the stand doesnt have continues support  for the work piece
i will buy a new longer version  and make two wings for it. similar to the cheap mft i use (used to use until i had an acident  with the other  one).
 
I have had the same issue! I went to woodcraft to buy the ug cart and extensions but learned I could not use the crown stops and decided not to purchase it. I have looked at alot of sites and blogs as well as discussed with other contractors.... It seems "you must build what you want "has been the most popular answer. I decided to go forward with the Paulk design ums with a few modifications. My requirements were continuous material support first and foremost along with a measured fence with consistent repeat ability. The factory ones are....saw helper (out of bussiness) fastcap (too bulky and too many parts) and of course the Festool ug cart. All other ones are ok but no continous material support!! With Ron's design I have recieved more than I expected! Like a decent size clamping area for all sorts of things, the ability to set up just the main part of the bench if I am not using long stock. It's light, cheap, and easy to build. I also bought the plans for the uwb and will be building that soon as well. Please let us know which direction you decide to go
Cheers,
John
 
Here is a pic. I made the main 8' along with 8' extensions. Overall it's 24'. I do a lot of exterior trim and the board lengths are 18' for 3/4" and 20' for 5/4" composite.
 
madmaguire said:
I have had the same issue! I went to woodcraft to buy the ug cart and extensions but learned I could not use the crown stops and decided not to purchase it. I have looked at alot of sites and blogs as well as discussed with other contractors.... It seems "you must build what you want "has been the most popular answer. I decided to go forward with the Paulk design ums with a few modifications. My requirements were continuous material support first and foremost along with a measured fence with consistent repeat ability. The factory ones are....saw helper (out of bussiness) fastcap (too bulky and too many parts) and of course the Festool ug cart. All other ones are ok but no continous material support!! With Ron's design I have recieved more than I expected! Like a decent size clamping area for all sorts of things, the ability to set up just the main part of the bench if I am not using long stock. It's light, cheap, and easy to build. I also bought the plans for the uwb and will be building that soon as well. Please let us know which direction you decide to go
Cheers,
John
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Glad you have a solution that works for you.  Too bad that no one told you that you could reverse the mounting direction of the extensions and then adjust those to be crown stops, i.e. right extension mounted to left side of saw with rear lip at front and vice versa.

Peter
 
Peter Halle said:
madmaguire said:
I have had the same issue! I went to woodcraft to buy the ug cart and extensions but learned I could not use the crown stops and decided not to purchase it. I have looked at alot of sites and blogs as well as discussed with other contractors.... It seems "you must build what you want "has been the most popular answer. I decided to go forward with the Paulk design ums with a few modifications. My requirements were continuous material support first and foremost along with a measured fence with consistent repeat ability. The factory ones are....saw helper (out of bussiness) fastcap (too bulky and too many parts) and of course the Festool ug cart. All other ones are ok but no continous material support!! With Ron's design I have recieved more than I expected! Like a decent size clamping area for all sorts of things, the ability to set up just the main part of the bench if I am not using long stock. It's light, cheap, and easy to build. I also bought the plans for the uwb and will be building that soon as well. Please let us know which direction you decide to go
Cheers,
John
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Glad you have a solution that works for you.  Too bad that no one told you that you could reverse the mounting direction of the extensions and then adjust those to be crown stops, i.e. right extension mounted to left side of saw with rear lip at front and vice versa.

Peter
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its amazing how many dont know about that trick.
i was at my local dealers festool demo. the demo guy didnt know about it. he was shocked at it. it actually made a sale for him because the customer wanted the wings and the crown extensions. he was trying to find a way of cuningly saying to the customer that they dont work together.
 
If i remember correctly it was a user that showed that to the Festool guys at a show.  I remember that Shane posted it here.

Peter
 
My Kapex stays in the shop most of the time.  It is mounted on the new Fastcap Best Fence Pro.  It took some adjustments to get it dialed in, but I really like how well it performs compared to my last saw stand, the Trojan.

The following picture shows my saw on the job last week where I am building a pergola.  I have 2 wing sections on the left and one on the right.  Easy to set up and take down, but it's a little heavy at the end of the day.

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I see now the option but a few questions I have would be; are they adjustable??? For different size crown and also what about small pieces?? Even kitchen cabinet returns look like they could be a problem??
Just goes to show what works for one might not work for all :-)
After looking at Shane's post it's obvious they are adjustable for different size crowns.
There is no question I love Festool products and will possibly pick up the cart and wings in the future !!! :-)
 
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