Anderson Plywood MFT Square Review

Mine came today.  Like others I was miffed by the shipping cost of $18 for usps.  But it is rather large and they did ship it 2 day priority so it's not that bad of a deal.  I ordered it Sunday and it arrived on Wed from coast to coast.
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By coincidence I’m in the middle of having a few of these cut on the CNC.
They are being constructed out of HPL 19,5mm thick plywood, the same as the Anderson one.
I have re-arranged the holes so that they match the holes on the MFT.
No idea why Anderson didn’t do that, it seemed right to me to have the holes align to the MFT so you can clamp it down if you wanted to.

Anyways, the squares will cost around €35,- a piece, shipping to the UK is € 13,-.
So let’s say for max € 50,- or £37,- you can have one on your doorstep.
If you are interested send me a PM for details.
 
jobsworth said:
icecactus said:
jobsworth said:
bnaboatbuilder said:
I've had the Anderson square for 1-2 months. Mine is not quite square. It's 1/100" off. Measured with feeler gauges and a woodpecker 18" aluminum triangle and other methods with a Veritas straight edge. My table saw crosscut sled is now within a thousandth, so I'll just re-square the Anderson square on the sled. Oh well. Had a QC sticker but don't think the CNC nailed it quite like it should have.

Did you use a try square to check the triangle?

I don't see how you can accurately check the square of a triangle with another triangle feeler gauges or not.

1/100 off isn't bad. Condsidering the method you used inherently has error.

Woodpecker guarantees theirs to be with in .0001 so that's pretty darned good.

Both of Mine ( yes I got 2) I checked with my woodpecker 1281 square and it was dead nuts on.
I set up a Aldendorf saws fence and sliding table yesterday using the square , got it dead nuts on verified using the 5 cut method. It was dead nuts.

For $19 ya can't really complain considering the WP 1281 is $99 and the WP 45cm triangle OTT was over $200 so a triangle square that cost $19 gives accuracy to by your method .001 is pretty darned good. Well with in the limits of wood working. After all we are not Astro physicist working on absolutes theoretical design for NASA life support on the future space station or Mars colony

Its .01 not .001.

I ordered 2 of them, they should be here today. If mine are not dead nuts then they are going back.

.01 is unacceptable. This "Well with in the limits of wood working" mindset that a lot of people seem to have drives me nuts.  [eek] Its what allows manufacturers to have crappy quality control and not improve their product.

If my tools are off by more then a couple thousands it almost always show up in the end result. Sometimes it matter, sometimes it doesn't.  [smile]
When you drill a hole in a piece of wood , do you take a hole gauge and measure it? If its not perfectly round do you toss the wood and start over?

When you put a drill in your drill press do you spend a hour or so setting up a dial indicator and adjusting its run out to insure its dead nut on with less then .0001 ?

When you joint a piece of lumber do you take a mic and measure the width a d make sure its with in .0001 tolerance. If it is and you leave it in a shop thats not climate controlled come back the next day and discover its not with in that .0001 tolerance?

Do you toss the lumber and start over?

If .01 is unacceptable to you then why waste your time with a $19 square or a WP square that cost a measly $99 and a tolerance of .001?

Why not go spend $500-$1500 or more and get one  specialy made for you from a precision shop that has +/- 00005  tolerance?

Even then you have to use it in a climate controlled shop to avoid any movement in the metal.

Im happy with the cuts I get, I realize Im not building the Mars explorer out of a material that has natural movement greater then the tolerances Im trying to maintain. Then try to keep the wood movement in those tolerances...

I really don't understand your point?

Your comparing me saying 1/100 of an inch is unacceptable for a tool used to setup a piece of machinery, to suddenly me working within 1/10,000 of an inch?

No one in there right mind going to setup a woodworking machine to 1/10,000 of an inch....

Do you own a table saw? Have you looked at your manual...grizzly recommends your blade be within .003 of parallel of the miter slot...so i assume you set yours .03 since that's in the hundreds and that's good enough for you since wood moves?

It's recommend your fence toe out from the blade a few thousands to avoid binding...I assume you do a few hundreds since that's good enough?

So, do I wood work to the thousands, most the time, no...but have you ever creeped up to make that perfect fitting dado joint...well guess what, you're in the thousands...

I try to work to 1/64th of an inch. I have a hard enough time with my own user error mucking things up that I don't need my tools adding to it  [tongue]

And both my Anderson MFT squares were dead on :)
 
It must have. But even for 25 bucks it's a good price. It love it for setting up my MFT.

 
It's great. now also available in Europe  [cool]

www.ebay.nl/itm/-/162026209689?

 
The new series of Anderson MFT squares are out!
We have trimmed square edges with Festool Trim Router and used the Festool VAC SYS (the new vacuum clamp) to hold the piece.
They look and feel much nicer now!
I will post pictures later on.  [big grin]
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Here is the link to the Anderson MFT Square:
http://www.andersonplywood.com/square-for-festool-mft-square/
Here is the Trim Router we used:
http://www.andersonplywood.com/mfk-700-modular-trim-router-set-festool-574368-fes574368/
Here is the link to Festool VAC SYS Clamp:
http://www.andersonplywood.com/festool-vac-sys-system-set-57000004-fes57000004/
 
I just purchased this anderson square from amazon.  I thought it was made entirely of phenolic, not wood, and im surprised I haven’t seen one person raise concern for the accuracy of this square with potential for the wood to grow or shrink.  Had i known it was plywood i don’t think i would have ordered.  What about those of use that don’t have climate controlled shops, isn’t this square going to be moving all over the place?

However, everything i just read says its pretty accurate so my concerns are probably not valid.
 
I have several and they hold up very well. I think your misunderstanding is that it is made out of phenolic plywood. as far as accuracy and variations it is a good choice. every material has issues. As an engineer I find the choice completely appropriate for the application. I would not have any worries.
 
I used mine on 2 continents the UK and the USA Calif. Both not climate controlled and both in a garage. No issues in either places
 
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