Another dead Kapex.

[Brice Burrell]

Interesting, why is it Festool USA cares if a PDF is attached? And FOG as well? Whats the deal there? And if it's an issue why don't they remove the option?

I believe most people know that Festool USA owns and operates the FOG.  As a company owned forum Festool has to be careful about opening themselves up to possible liability when it comes to things like diy repairs posted on this forum.  If in doubt its best to check with Festool first if there is a question if something is appropriate or not. 

 

[ben_r_]

Interesting, why is it Festool USA cares if a PDF is attached? And FOG as well? Whats the deal there? And if it's an issue why don't they remove the option?

I believe most people know that Festool USA owns and operates the FOG.  As a company owned forum Festool has to be careful about opening themselves up to possible liability when it comes to things like diy repairs posted on this forum.  If in doubt its best to check with Festool first if there is a question if something is appropriate or not. 

Interesting... That sounds a little odd to me, but I guess legal stuff often takes on some wonky logic, so yea. Is this in writing somewhere on the site? What is the official process for gaining approval to post a PDF? Email a mod? Or a particular FOG member?

 

[AlexThePalex]

What is the official process for gaining approval to post a PDF? Email a mod? Or a particular FOG member?

There is no official process, you just do it. If the content is not ok with Festool, it might be deleted by the mods. There is no problem with most posts or attachments, only with some that in some way might endanger a person or open Festool to liability.

Is this in writing somewhere on the site?

http://festoolownersgroup.com/forum-rules-guidelines-suggestions/

 

[ben_r_]

What is the official process for gaining approval to post a PDF? Email a mod? Or a particular FOG member?

There is no official process, you just do it. If the content is not ok with Festool, it might be deleted by the mods. There is no problem with most posts or attachments, only with some that in some way might endanger a person or open Festool to liability.

Is this in writing somewhere on the site?

http://festoolownersgroup.com/forum-rules-guidelines-suggestions/

Thank you, on both points. Thats how I figured it would work and what would be normal. Brice was just making it sound weird.

 

[Brice Burrell]

Interesting, why is it Festool USA cares if a PDF is attached? And FOG as well? Whats the deal there? And if it's an issue why don't they remove the option?

I believe most people know that Festool USA owns and operates the FOG.  As a company owned forum Festool has to be careful about opening themselves up to possible liability when it comes to things like diy repairs posted on this forum.  If in doubt its best to check with Festool first if there is a question if something is appropriate or not. 

Interesting... That sounds a little odd to me, but I guess legal stuff often takes on some wonky logic, so yea. Is this in writing somewhere on the site? What is the official process for gaining approval to post a PDF? Email a mod? Or a particular FOG member?

I don't know if its in writing anywhere and there isn't an official process for approval.  Also, this isn't about a pdf, its about posting any information that might be viewed as a liability for Festool. 

Servicing your own tools is a topic that sort of fall into a gray area.  There's nothing wrong with a qualified person servicing tools.  Posting a tutorial on how to service a tool for anyone to use, whether qualified or not, well like I said, its sort of a gray area.

As for inquiring about permission to post something that might be in that gray area, I'd suggest you contact TylerC, he's a Festool employee and the forum administrator.         

 

[petar73]

This Is ridiculous , Festool should have sorted kapex’s motor problem years ago if they don’t want people DIY.

 

[ChuckM]

Each forum or site can dictate its own rules  But youtube has many unsafe videos that it seems to have no liability worries.

 

[ben_r_]

Each forum or site can dictate its own rules  But youtube has many unsafe videos that it seems to have no liability worries.

Ha! Yea really. Good point.

 

[Gregor]

Servicing your own tools is a topic that sort of fall into a gray area.

Festool sells the parts to their endusers, them having problems with their endusers being educating on how to install these would be a silly stance.

Slap a warning disclaimer on it ('you need to know what you're doing or you should make one that does do it') and post it.

 

[ALI Construction]

Hi all, just got home,
replied to everyone that PM'd me for it.

btw I'm not hosting it anywhere, its just on my desktop so i can only attach it for now and sand it to you via e-mail.

few people that PM'd me forgot to include their emails, so guys don't forget that.

So far i've only bin warned here, and i also asked a moderator for permission to post it here, but got no response yet, so i'll just be emailing it for now.

So far around 30+ ppl already asked and got it.

by the way guys that have it already, please spread it around for all I care.

I'm actually surprised that so many people are interested lol

 

[ChuckM]

I'm actually surprised that so many people are interested lol

I was interested (thanks for your pdf) because I do not make $250 an hour, the estimated amount of saving I would achieve if I did the repair myself based on the estimated amount of time I would need to fix it and the cost of the parts).  [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

 

[AlexThePalex]

I'm actually surprised that so many people are interested lol

Lots of worried Kapex owners here.

 

[epicxt]

Hi all, just got home,
replied to everyone that PM'd me for it.

btw I'm not hosting it anywhere, its just on my desktop so i can only attach it for now and sand it to you via e-mail.

few people that PM'd me forgot to include their emails, so guys don't forget that.

So far i've only bin warned here, and i also asked a moderator for permission to post it here, but got no response yet, so i'll just be emailing it for now.

So far around 30+ ppl already asked and got it.

by the way guys that have it already, please spread it around for all I care.

I'm actually surprised that so many people are interested lol

There have been enough problems reported with the motor that all of us that have older saws are happy to have a cheaper fix. I've had mine since 2012 with no motor issues yet, but I'm stoked to have this option in case it burns out.

Thanks again!

 

[Mario Turcot]

Thanks for the PDF Ali, very easy to follow

Hi all, just got home,
replied to everyone that PM'd me for it.

btw I'm not hosting it anywhere, its just on my desktop so i can only attach it for now and sand it to you via e-mail.

What grit you've used

 

[Cheese]

Thanks Ali for the Kapex .pdf, it's easy to follow and reads well, I like the tips.  [thumbs up] 

Let's hope I never have to use it, however, I'm not holding my breath.  [eek]

 

[ALI Construction]

Thanks for the PDF Ali, very easy to follow

Hi all, just got home,
replied to everyone that PM'd me for it.

btw I'm not hosting it anywhere, its just on my desktop so i can only attach it for now and sand it to you via e-mail.

What grit you've used

This one

 

[ALI Construction]

repplied to all PM's again.

crazy. so far 53 ppl got it. if someone has a desire to host itsomwhere like geocitioes or wherever, go for it, otherwise i hope ill have time every night to keep up with PM's lol

 

[ben_r_]

I say just post it here. The mods will take it down if they dont like it. Unless they already told you not to...

 

[miclee15]

if someone has a desire to host itsomwhere like geocitioes or wherever, go for it

I've put this on a google drive :

 

[ben_r_]

if someone has a desire to host itsomwhere like geocitioes or wherever, go for it

THERE we go! Thank you!