Another design for universal parallel guide brackets

[Novice-Newbie]

RMW

Still interested. Hope you proceed.

Dave

 

[moody]

Still interested! I´m also interested in some "narrow stock thingies" if you where to make some as well!

 

[jjehowski]

ill still take a set  ;D

 

[lumbajac]

Would also be interested, but would also want the narrow stock things as well so long as I could rip face frames with the setup from hardwood stock.

 

[Novice-Newbie]

RMW,

Just to clarify. Your proposed device works with Incra t track and t track plus?

Dave

 

[timberwolf]

I would be interested, if the price is around 80.  I have been waiting for seneca to release theirs, and now that thet have, they are just too expensive. 

 

[rmwarren]

RMW,

Just to clarify. Your proposed device works with Incra t track and t track plus?

Dave

It fits the Incra T-Track Plus, 1-1/4" by 1/2" with a t-slot on each side and the plastic scale that slip in.

RMW

 

[Julian Tracy]

Imo, the Seneca versions went in the wrong direction.  By the looks of it, those things would take about as long to put on and off as the Festool Para guides.

The whole point in a diy version is to get it quick and fast, without taking up any rail overhead.

Going back to your design Ron, with the assumption that the milled channel to fit the track is a tight fit and offers a reasonable degree of 90-degree, I'd suggest to forget using T-nuts or knobs or anything that requires the rail adapter to slide in from the ends to attach.

I'd suggest milling them so that the adapters can very simply be placed down (from the top) onto the Festool rail channel and a single captive cam-design tightening screw would hold it in place.  So: Place down on the channel, the milled pc. "keys" onto the channel, the single cam action screw end slips into the channel and as it's tightened 1/2 a turn will hold against the inside of the channel tight enough to be secure.

After your cuts - one loosen of that Cam screw and the entire assembly lifts off of the rail completely.

That is the ticket.  Anything that has to be slidden onto the rail from the end defeats most of the purpose of making your own.

Of course, many of you have 10 rails floating around with huge shops.  Me - I like to only carry around 2,3-4 tops and use them in multiple configurations, often in tight spaces or rooms onsite, so leaving the entire rail/guide assembly intact is not at all the goal.

I want to be able to parallel cut a few pcs. quickly remove the para guides and then right to cross cutting something else with the same rail.

JT

 

[mhch]

Going back to your design Ron, with the assumption that the milled channel to fit the track is a tight fit and offers a reasonable degree of 90-degree, I'd suggest to forget using T-nuts or knobs or anything that requires the rail adapter to slide in from the ends to attach.

I'd suggest milling them so that the adapters can very simply be placed down (from the top) onto the Festool rail channel and a single captive cam-design tightening screw would hold it in place.  So: Place down on the channel, the milled pc. "keys" onto the channel, the single cam action screw end slips into the channel and as it's tightened 1/2 a turn will hold against the inside of the channel tight enough to be secure.

After your cuts - one loosen of that Cam screw and the entire assembly lifts off of the rail completely.

Very good point !
This plus the fact that the Seneca version is a bit pricey for my hobbyist taste, I'm definitely interested in what you could come up with.

 

[Tinker]

RMW, Please count me in for a set and including the narrow stock fitting you mentioned.
I do a lot of very narrow ripping of from a foot to 8 feet and as narrow as possible.
I do use the Festool P-guides, but it is always a hastle to set up and still work around the ends when i am only doing a few 3 foot pieces and cutting very narrow, say 3/8" width. With you jig, I can see a great benefit to using Incra.  I already have a couple of 18" lying around.

I would be willing to pay in advance as soon as you know exactly what you want to charge.
Tinker

 

[rmwarren]

Thanks for the input, you convinced me there is a market for both products, or at least enough demand that I can offload the quantity I need to produce & not get stuck with them.

Julian - regarding ease of installation, I will gin up a quick video over the weekend using the brackets I have and post it. There are really 2 options, either slide the whole bracket/track assembly on from the end or leave the bracket on the rail and slide the track in & out of it. I prefer the former but either way it takes less than 1 minute to install or remove completely. I don't know about you but in my working situation I will spend more time trying to find someplace to set them down out of the way or trying to remember where I put them the next time I need them...  [big grin]

Tinker - I have you down for serial # 0001 as soon as they are available.

Thanks,

RMW

 

[jjehowski]

well ill take #0002

 

[Claimdude]

Thanks for the input, you convinced me there is a market for both products, or at least enough demand that I can offload the quantity I need to produce & not get stuck with them.

Julian - regarding ease of installation, I will gin up a quick video over the weekend using the brackets I have and post it. There are really 2 options, either slide the whole bracket/track assembly on from the end or leave the bracket on the rail and slide the track in & out of it. I prefer the former but either way it takes less than 1 minute to install or remove completely. I don't know about you but in my working situation I will spend more time trying to find someplace to set them down out of the way or trying to remember where I put them the next time I need them...  [big grin]

Tinker - I have you down for serial # 0001 as soon as they are available.

Thanks,

RMW

I am still in for a set including the narrow cutting strips and stops. I prefer the brackets to use bolts when attached to the rail. A little be longer to attach but more security that it won't move off 90 degrees. I am used to sliding the rails around on the sheet goods cutting different pieces and prefer to not have to double check 90 degrees everytime I move them.

Jack

 

[Tinker]

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Tinker - I have you down for serial # 0001 as soon as they are available.

RMW
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Tinker 0001  Licensed to make noise & dust

 

[bpitch]

Count me in as well!

 

[bwiele]

I'm in for a set please.

 

[moody]

I believe Julian Tracy is on to something with his idea, (if I understand him correct) something similar to the guide rail gib cams on the TS-55 that turns in under "the roof" of the T-track of the rail and locks against the wall, forcing the bracket to the same position each time. For me it is not that big of a deal whether you slide the bracket onto the rail or place it down from on top as long as there is some sort of self-indexing function in the lock mechanism that attaches to the rail.

 

[lumbajac]

Thanks for the input, you convinced me there is a market for both products, or at least enough demand that I can offload the quantity I need to produce & not get stuck with them.

Count me in for a set if running both products - I need the ability to rip faceframes from hardwood stock.

Thanks

 

[sam basey]

Count me in

 

[John Stevens]

So one thing I liked about them the minute I saw them is that it appears you can leave the block on the rail and just loosen the knob that attaches the ttrack and slide it out.  The rail could then be used as normal.

Matt, that's a great point.

Regards,

John