any edgeband users out there?

[norwegian wood]

i am in the market for a edgbander machine. and was looking at Felder. my question to those of you who have or do use them should i get one with a glue pot or one that just uses pre-glued edgebanding? i am more concerned with the quality then price. If the glue pot machine does a better job I'll spend the extra money. any advantages or disadvantages with either type you know of please speak up any information will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Frank Pellow]

This is probably not what you want to hear, but I have tried both types and have given up on both.  To me, furniture that has edge banding strips looks cheap and less durable.

I now cut my own edging strips (at least 5 mm wide, preferably 1 cm) and glue them in place using clamps.

 

[norwegian wood]

not for furniture but for production closet shelving systems. but thanks frank for your honest opinion

 

[lordinteriors]

a couple of things to think about, preglued edging is more expensive but good quality banders with a glue pot are equally as good but if you leave to much glue in the pot it stews itself and reduces quality and adhesion

lee

 

[norwegian wood]

good information lee. thanks. keep the info coming guys, its all very appreciative and helpfull

 

[DavidW]

Frank,
If your doing production closet systems, go with a hot melt glue system, I have an older (20yrs.) HolzHer 1403, It uses a glue cartage instead of glue pot. HolzHer made this model for a lot of years and it's very basic, it will do .50 PVC, P-lam and 1/8" wood strips. It is a fussy machine and I have to clean up edges with a file. I read somewhere that an edgebander will reduce man hours from 16hrs. (applying by hand with iron) to 2-3hrs. Service and parts are very expensive for these machines, so if your looking at a used machine, spend the money for a tech. to look at it.
David Werkheiser

 

[sw1211]

Have you looked into the peel and stick options?

http://www.fastcap.com/products.aspx?id=38

 

[mastercabman]

Have you looked into the peel and stick options?

http://www.fastcap.com/products.aspx?id=38

That stuff works pretty good!

 

[EcoFurniture]

Have you looked into the peel and stick options?

http://www.fastcap.com/products.aspx?id=38

I just had it in my hand yesterday. Great for job site repairs/installs but way to expensive for production.
A good compromise is iron on edge tape. It will stick just fine if you give it enough time to melt. Anyhow,it's worth to spend more on good quality stuff!

 

[SPARKY FROM WINNIPEG]

I think if I was going to mass produce I would definately go with a edgebander with glue pot just talking with the millworker who is next to my work he builds kitchen cabinets and using the edgebander has cut down his production time quite a bit. His machine applies the banding ,trims it and polishes the ends so no touch up file work is required.

 

[norwegian wood]

i'm thinking of the felder g 300. its a glue pot machine. and the felder dealer is pretty local so a tech from the company should be readily available if ever needed.

Thanks for all your tips fella's

http://www.felderusa.com/

 

[richard.selwyn]

Please forgive an ignorant question, but as I make a lot of painted furniture out of ply, an edgebander appeals to get clean painted edges without lots of filling and sanding.  My dumb question is: can I stick edge banding onto ply and then paint it satisfactorily (I'm starting out in HVLP and generally have to use waterbased paint) and given the wide variations in the thickness of the ply, do I have to trim the edgebanding. ( I'm a Felder fan - although they just delivered me a mortiser today which was broken in transport - not their fault but they don't crate things - just put them on a pallet and wrap them in plastic - so a Felder edgebander appeals)

If anyone has the patience to enlighten me.....

 

[norwegian wood]

yes you can richard. you can get unfinished wood edgebanding and paint away.  not sure if unfinished wood edgebanding comes preglued though, actually not sure if any real wood edgebanding comes preglued. but what your talking about is done in cabinewt shops a; the time. either painted or clear coated. so you would need a glue pot edgebander, or some smaller shops i know contact adhesive it on then trim by hand or router

 

[score0matic]

here is a product that you may not know about. http://www.tools4flooring.com/johnsonite-power-tape-1-in-x-164-ft-p-437.html    Contact adhesive in a peal-n-stick roll.    It is super easy to use, when i read your post i took a scrap 3/4 melamine and applied the tape, sliced off the extra then rolled on a strip of  edge banding, trimmed  it, and tried to get it to unbond. It works like magic.  I was turned on to the product my a supplier when I needed to install 120' of vinyl threshold to a tile set in a factory break room....(tons of foot traffic kicking against the bond everyday). several counter top guys i know are using it for laminate edge strips.  should work for wood too and for $13.00 give it a shot.
Thanks Craig

 

[norwegian wood]

very interesting. how thick is this product? there was no sign of it after you trimmed off the edgbanding?

 

[festoolfan1000]

Richard,

You certainly can. In fact you can get pretty much any type, colour, wood species of edgebanding you could ever think of. Pre glued for use with hot air or not for use with glue pot banders.

Here's a great source I have used a couple of times.

http://www.edgecoinc.com/

Cheers,

Michael

 

[score0matic]

very interesting. how thick is this product? there was no sign of it after you trimmed off the edgbanding?

it is very thin just a shade larger than 1/128"  went and looked again

email me and i will and i will mail you a small sample so you can see.  Score0matic@yahoo.com
Craig

 

[richard.selwyn]

Thanks for the info.  I've just finished a load of plywood painted shelves for a client and sure wish I could have "edgebanded" them.  I'm going to check out the Felder one.

 

[nickao]

I love using hardwood instead of that thin glue on stuff(crap) as the edge banding.

Edge Banding router bits

Edge Banding Bits from Eagle America

Edge Banding Bits from MLCS - Free Shipping

 

[pingvinlakrits]

Hey, those router bits look nice, must try and find some of that stuff over here - sure could come in handy.
I am no fan of edge banding and prefer real wood so those bits look like just the right ticket!