Are Festool power tools as tough as we claim?

[Timtool]

Get real. Not being funny 20years is a little extreme dude.

You could say if it lasts it warranty so 3years with the same abuse he's giving in the video then that's amazing but that's expecting to much it's just really showing it can with stand abuse as festool is thought of being not durable enough.   I'm pretty sure you put a other brand in water a few times drilled a few screws and put it in water again it will stop working

Jmb

i did say i would be impressed if it still functions in 20 years, you would expect it to function at least 3 years.
by example with bosch you see the verry same dust tests, but they also drop them on concrete from the first floor. i have not seen a festool vid where they drop a T drill like that, wich you have to admit is a more common accident than dropping it in water. i know a friends makita 18v did not resist such a fall, the battery pack broke right off.

 

[jmbfestool]

Get real. Not being funny 20years is a little extreme dude.

You could say if it lasts it warranty so 3years with the same abuse he's giving in the video then that's amazing but that's expecting to much it's just really showing it can with stand abuse as festool is thought of being not durable enough.   I'm pretty sure you put a other brand in water a few times drilled a few screws and put it in water again it will stop working

Jmb

i did say i would be impressed if it still functions in 20 years, you would expect it to function at least 3 years.
by example with bosch you see the verry same dust tests, but they also drop them on concrete from the first floor. i have not seen a festool vid where they drop a T drill like that, wich you have to admit is a more common accident than dropping it in water. i know a friends makita 18v did not resist such a fall, the battery pack broke right off.

Festool do have a drop test from about 2meters I have seen the video I'll c if I can find it.

Jmb

 

[spikfot]

Returning a tool after intentional abuse would really be taking unfair advantage of the warranty and Festool. To the Festool retailers in Ohio, beware... 45 year old Latin American with the initials JGM, shouldn't be to hard to spot or recognize, even by warranty info on paper. -And Shane, this is not meant to be negative, just informative

 

[jmbfestool]

Found it sorry I was wrong it's tested at 1.1 meter not 2meters like I said above.

Festool Akkubohrschrauber T12+3 / T15+3

Go to 1.30 if you don't want to watch the boring bit.

Jmb

EDITED
Sorry I didnt know I copied and pasted the link wrong. Link works now!

 

[jmbfestool]

Oh Shane you know you never seen a video of the dust test chamber well the video I linked above is the video of the dust chamber of that picture you linked I remember seeing it a year or so ago when I was researching the T15

Jmb

 

[Brice Burrell]

it's a good promotional stunt, but does it really prove much? would have been nice to see another brand undergo the same torture. i'm not certain that such a short but intense abuse would insta-kill (m)any other brand drills.

i can abuse my car for 4 minutes aswell, it doesn't mean that if it doesn't fail during the abuse that there is no damage or concequences.....

I completely agree, this test doesn't necessarily prove anything.  I'd also like to see a another brand do the same test.  I believe Makita has a brushless impact that would probably work immersed in water.

Returning a tool after intentional abuse would really be taking unfair advantage of the warranty and Festool. To the Festool retailers in Ohio, beware... 45 year old Latin American with the initials JGM, shouldn't be to hard to spot or recognize, even by warranty info on paper. -And Shane, this is not meant to be negative, just informative

I'm sure Festool will be keeping their eyes peeled for a returned T15 from Ohio......

 

[AlexThePalex]

Get real. Not being funny 20years is a little extreme dude.

Festool themselves claim their tools will last you 25 years.

by example with bosch you see the verry same dust tests, but they also drop them on concrete from the first floor. i have not seen a festool vid where they drop a T drill like that, wich you have to admit is a more common accident than dropping it in water.

Even if there's no vid you can rest assured they've done these tests during the development stage. All manufacturers of professional tools do such tests to make sure their tools meet the highest demands. Personally, I've done the drop test with my Rotex, albeit not voluntarily. Dropped it from 2,5 meter high, and nothing bad happened. Except for some bad words slipping my tongue. [embarassed] 

 

[Laminator]

Shane, sorry for the negative humor as I focused on the torturer rather than the tool.   I guess this test, in a round about way, does prove what a drill could go through if it had to.  I wonder what the long term damage for such abuse would be and would certainly not expect festool to warranty a tool treated this way.  Now heading back to AFV.

Just an added thought on drop test-  My first 1010 router, just out of the box, I put the rail guide on it and was sliding it on the rail and adjusting the tension.    I pushed it down the rail, which I had on the very end of my work bench, with my left hand on the guide knob and for some reason simply let i go.  The router rolled to the right and off my work bench (36") and hit the concrete on the top of the motor.  Only damage is a little flat scuff on the plastic.  Sounded like a gunshot when it hit.

 

[BTDT]

I think the guy in the video deserves some big props. He did a test that few of us are brave enough to try with our own tools. He did not necessarily prove a lot with the tests especially given that there were no controls or comparisons to other brands. The fact that he felt confident enough to do this with his Festool does say something though.

I have heard of someone dropping their TS 55 from the top of their MFT/3 onto their concrete shop floor. Apparently it still cuts square and smooth.  : or so I have heard.

Festools are pretty tough!

Brad

 

[jmbfestool]

I think the guy in the video deserves some big props. He did a test that few of us are brave enough to try with our own tools. He did not necessarily prove a lot with the tests especially given that there were no controls or comparisons to other brands. The fact that he felt confident enough to do this with his Festool does say something though.

I have heard of someone dropping their TS 55 from the top of their MFT/3 onto their concrete shop floor. Apparently it still cuts square and smooth.  : or so I have heard.

Festools are pretty tough!

Brad

I think DeanSocial dropped his TS55 and he said it cuts fine!

Jmb

 

[jmbfestool]

Same Video as the one before just a little bit more exiting to watch wiv the music and all

Again showing the drop fall test and T15 in dust chamber.

Again at 1.30 you see drop test and dust chamber

Festool Cordless Drill System - T12+3 & T15+3

JMB

 

[Dan1210]

I think the guy in the video deserves some big props. He did a test that few of us are brave enough to try with our own tools. He did not necessarily prove a lot with the tests especially given that there were no controls or comparisons to other brands. The fact that he felt confident enough to do this with his Festool does say something though.

I have heard of someone dropping their TS 55 from the top of their MFT/3 onto their concrete shop floor. Apparently it still cuts square and smooth.  : or so I have heard.

Festools are pretty tough!

Brad

I've dropped my ts 55 at least 4 times from bench and it's been fine, it's supposed to cut 1mm off the aluminium track right? (joke) I'm doing a shop fit at the mo and the owner was outside up a ladder doing the sign, I thought any minute he's gonna ask to borrow my drill...and sure enough he did, I didn't want to say no so it was a toss up between the Cxs or my panasonic impact. Well there's no way he was getting the Cxs so I reluctantly gave him the panasonic, I thought to myself he's definitely gonna drop it! Well after a few minutes he called me over to help take the sign down and I thought phew drills fine, he then got down from the step ladder and we began to talk with the drill on top of the ladder, sure enough he stepped back into the ladder and the drill went crashing to the floor! I was gutted but as it hit the deck it made a reassuring thud and bounced a little. I quickly grabbed it and pulled the trigger all was fine no scratches or nothing! The panasonic drills especially the impact are fantastic and almost fully covered in rubber, had it been the Cxs it would have suffered far greater I think.

I think DeanSocial dropped his TS55 and he said it cuts fine!

Jmb

 

[AlexThePalex]

The panasonic drills especially the impact are fantastic and almost fully covered in rubber, had it been the Cxs it would have suffered far greater I think.

All that rubber on tools these days is only meant as a comfortable soft-grip for your hands. As far as shock impact is considered, they add no protection at all, the layer of rubber is too thin for that. The real impact of the shock is absorbed by the elasticity of the plastic housing. You can see this effect very clearly in the video JMB posted. The moment the drill hits the floor the battery pack bends downwards and then flips up again.

But considering the smaller weight and the D shape of the CXS, it will probably do a lot better than your Panasonic when dropped.

 

[tms0425]

I think the guy in the video deserves some big props. He did a test that few of us are brave enough to try with our own tools. He did not necessarily prove a lot with the tests especially given that there were no controls or comparisons to other brands. The fact that he felt confident enough to do this with his Festool does say something though.

I have heard of someone dropping their TS 55 from the top of their MFT/3 onto their concrete shop floor. Apparently it still cuts square and smooth.  : or so I have heard.

Festools are pretty tough!

Brad

I dropped my TS55 exactly that way from the MFT to my basement floor. It cracked a 3/4" piece off the corner of the base plate and chopped right through my cord but the saw worked just fine. I later took it in to service while at training in Lebanon and they had the plate totally replaced and tuned up perfectly the same day!

 

[luns4d]

I think the guy in the video deserves some big props. He did a test that few of us are brave enough to try with our own tools. He did not necessarily prove a lot with the tests especially given that there were no controls or comparisons to other brands. The fact that he felt confident enough to do this with his Festool does say something though.

I have heard of someone dropping their TS 55 from the top of their MFT/3 onto their concrete shop floor. Apparently it still cuts square and smooth.  : or so I have heard.

Festools are pretty tough!

Brad

I dropped my TS55 exactly that way from the MFT to my basement floor. It cracked a 3/4" piece off the corner of the base plate and chopped right through my cord but the saw worked just fine. I later took it in to service while at training in Lebanon and they had the plate totally replaced and tuned up perfectly the same day!

WOW! now that is an awesome testimonial!  Did you get it on video, including the repair?  Now see, a great combination of tool and follow-up service.  That is so rare, it is hard to believe.

All this abuse of elegant, precession tools is hard for me to watch.

 

[Julian Tracy]

1.1M drop test?  What's the point of that?  The Bosch test referred to was a 50FOOT drop if I recall correctly or at least 30-40 feet.  They even show their radio being thrown 10-15 feet in the air, though it is a ridiculously huge behemoth of a radio for a jobsite.

1.1M drop test, might as well hit it a few time with a terry cloth towel!

JT

 

[AlexThePalex]

Bosch always mentions their tools have been tested with a 2 meter drop test. Not 50 foot.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

1.1M drop test?  What's the point of that?  The Bosch test referred to was a 50FOOT drop if I recall correctly or at least 30-40 feet.  They even show their radio being thrown 10-15 feet in the air, though it is a ridiculously huge behemoth of a radio for a jobsite.

1.1M drop test, might as well hit it a few time with a terry cloth towel!

JT

JT has a good idea, but in keeping with this thread, I think wet sponges would be more appropriate than a terry cloth towel.

Bosch always mentions their tools have been tested with a 2 meter drop test. Not 50 foot.

Alex,

With the weakening of the U.S. economy, 2 meters now equals 50 feet.

 

[Julian Tracy]

Just looked it up - the Bosch Brute tough 18volt tools were routinely tested and shown to withstand a 46 foot drop onto concrete.

Even with the new economy - last I checked, 46 foot was a little farther than 1.1M.

I had one - they were heavy, but no worries about the durability.  Of course I never saw some yahoo dipping them in sand, dust, water and lighting it on fire, so who knows how "real-world" tough it really was?

JT

 

[Timtool]

just a question to Shane, how many stories does your festool building have?  ;D