Auction luck and mishaps any ideas/ opinions?

[Dane]

So I went to an estate auction on Saturday of a large woodworking shop and walked out with about two weeks of pay worth of Festool and other assorted stuff.  I am a Festool newbie, so I just bought everything that came up and figured I would sort it out later.  Got a good haul including a Domino, Jigsaw, MFT 1080, AFT 55, 1010 Router with every copy ring imaginable and an 8' long guide rails.

Among the haul were a few things that I am not entirely sure what to do with.  Thought you guys might have some input.

1.  MFS 700.  I have the four profiles, and, as they are attached in a square configuration, presumably the attachment hardware.  However, I do not have anything else that is supposed to come with the thing.  Is there any way to get ahold of the extras without purchasing a whole new set.  Or, is there anyone who has bought two sets and wants to part with the hardware that you are not using from the second set?

2.  Leigh FMT.  Brand new, in the box.  Since I have a Domino, is there any sense in keeping this?  I got it for a really good price and by selling it on Ebay, could reinvest in some more Festool gear. 

3. Akeda parts.  I got a systainer full of Akeda parts, but not the jig itself.  I have the dust collector kit, cutter set, and dc accessory kit according to the labels that the guy put in the box.  All brand new.  I understand this is a good dovetail jig, should I go ahead and buy it so I have the jig to go with the accessories or should I try to sell the accessories to someone who already has the jig?  I am not sure if I will get a lot of use out of it, but it might be nice to have.

4. OF 1010.  I really can only afford to have one router kicking around right now.  I am contemplating selling the OF1010 and getting the 1400 due to the latter's versatility.  But not sure that I need the extra power.  How versatile do you find the 1010 and would it suffice as my only router.  (I mean I have a Bosch, but it wont go on the rails)

Thanks for the input.

 

[stvrowe]

Congratulations on your great haul.  On the Leigh FMT, I have one and decided to keep it after I purchased the Domino.  I think they are a great compliment to each other and gives you a great deal of flexibility in joinery options.  That said, this flexibility is useless if you never use it so the decision to keep it or sell it is really based on your use.

On the 1010 router, it is interesting the different perspectives that folks have.  I have two OF1400 routers and am contemplating purchase of a 1010 because of the weight difference (almost 4 lbs).  If you keep the Leigh FMT, I recommend keeping the 1010.  I still remember the two hour stint several years ago hefting the Bosch 1613 router while cutting 126 mortises and their matching tenons.  It is times like those when you really appreciate a light weight plunge router.

Sorry I can't offer any advice on the other questions.

Steve

 

[Dane]

Thanks Steve-

Where do you find the difference in ability between the FMT and the Domino?  I haven't really looked at the FMT's capabilities.  My only concern about the Domino is the ability to do larger joints, for things like entry doors and for larger timber framed pieces like dining tables and such.  Would the FMT serve in that area?  It strikes me that no store-bought jig will be able to cut a tenon in a 4 x 4 post.....

 

[Ned]

Sounds like a good haul, Dane.  Lucky ^$&^%!

About the MFS.  There should be no problem getting the parts.  Between Jerry's, Brice's, and my pieces, you should have all the info you need.  Search for MFS on FOG.  Good idea to try buying the parts from someone who has extras.  Maybe you should place a WTB in the Classifieds here?  You also need at least one copy ring (guide bushing) for your Festool router (keep the 1010!).  If you want to use the circle cutting ability, that'll have to be the 30mm one.

Ned

 

[Daviddubya]

One difference between the OF1010 and the OF1400 is collets.  The OF1010 uses 1/4" and 8 mm collets.  The OF1400 uses those two plus a 1/2" collet.  Here in the USA, we have a wider selection of 1/4" and 1/2" bits, and a limited selection of 8 mm bits.  The 8 mm bits that are available tend to be higher quality and higher priced bits.  Many folks prefer using 1/2" bits because of the larger shaft.  If you do not already have a bit collection, this difference in collet capability may be unimportant to you.

 

[dirtydeeds]

the of1400 will also take a 13mm collet, when the first of1400s arrived in england they forgot to supply 1/2 inch collets

it was a begger, the worktop didnt go in until the monday = unhappy customer = unhappy tradesman

ive never yet seen a 13mm shank cutter for sale it must be a size only used on the continent 

 

[Ned]

ive never yet seen a 13mm shank cutter for sale it must be a size only used on the continent 

Neither have I.  Europe uses 12mm, and 1/2 inch (12.7mm) is common in many parts of the world, why does anyone need 13mm?

Are you sure the 13mm collets weren't just a clumsy (and failed) attempt at 1/2 inch?

Ned

 

[butzla]

Dane,  That's every Festoolaholic's wet dream!  Out of envy/curiosity,  what did you pay for everything? 

 

[greg mann]

My guess is that is was the 12mm. That is a very common Euro size (for metal machining at least) and I know that Festool makes that collet as I have one. I can't remember how I got it except that I believe it was available when I bought my OF2000.

 

[Dane]

Dane,  That's every Festoolaholic's wet dream!  Out of envy/curiosity,  what did you pay for everything? 

Well, I was bidding against some other cabinet makers, so it wasn't a fire sale.  And it wasn't an all for one price thing, everything went individually.  It was also all used, but in good shape.  But I got some good deals.  I got the MFT 1080, Angle Guide, 8' rail and the 55" rail for 375.00  The Domino went for 475.00.  I think the jigsaw was 180.00, ATF55 275.00  The MFS700 extrusions were 50.00 and the OF 1010 was 275.00.  So I didn't steal it, but not bad.  Also, I had to pay a 10% buyers premium as well as sales tax.....So don't feel too hostile towards me 

 

[semenza]

Hi,

      Maybe not a steal but-  Dude you made out!  Rough math in my head says thats about 1/2 price total. 8)  Must be no one knew what to do with the MFS extrusions.

Seth

 

[Dane]

Yeah the MFS was the big steal, no one knew what they were.  Though they are missing all of the hardware, so unless I can get that somehow I may have to buy another set anyway.  I have the part numbers, but it can't be ordered on the Festool site.  I will have to find a local dealer and check.

 

[Ned]

Yeah the MFS was the big steal,... I may have to buy another set anyway.

Of course you will. 

I have the part numbers, but it can't be ordered on the Festool site.  I will have to find a local dealer and check.

Call Festool Service about the parts.  Number's in MFS Notes here on FOG.

Ned

 

[Dane]

Thanks Ned, I'll give it a shot.  I can already feel the tractor beam from my wallet and an MFS 400 powering up, though....  Where in So. Cal do you live?  We were out there for 5 years before moving back to NC.

 

[Ned]

About 90 miles (145km) east of LA at 6000 feet (1800m) altitude.  You've seen my forest ablaze several times.  One of the major reasons for my choosing Festool is that when we evacuate, the shop goes with me.

Where did you live?

Ned

 

[dirtydeeds]

im sure everybody here is correct, im no where near perfect, thank goodness

but

on introducing the of1400 to the uk the germans (and uk supliers) did not check the collet size was correct for the uk market

 

[stvrowe]

Thanks Steve-

Where do you find the difference in ability between the FMT and the Domino?  I haven't really looked at the FMT's capabilities.  My only concern about the Domino is the ability to do larger joints, for things like entry doors and for larger timber framed pieces like dining tables and such.  Would the FMT serve in that area?  It strikes me that no store-bought jig will be able to cut a tenon in a 4 x 4 post.....

Dane,
I use the FMT for cutting smaller M&T than the Domino will allow.  I have done some rather delicate M&T on the Leigh FMT.  It will also permit integral tenons.  Some have rather strong opinions on which is better (stronger?) but I don't see much difference given the glues we have available today are usually stronger than the wood itself for a properly prepared joint.  The FMT will cut larger than the Domino but you could use multiple dominos to achieve similar results.  You are correct about store bought jigs on the 4x4 post.  If I had to do that a lot, I would be using a shaper with a tenoning plate and hood setup.
Steve

 

[Dane]

About 90 miles (145km) east of LA at 6000 feet (1800m) altitude.  You've seen my forest ablaze several times.  One of the major reasons for my choosing Festool is that when we evacuate, the shop goes with me.

Where did you live?

Ned

We were in LA, but spent as much time as we could in the mountain areas- Lake Arrowhead, Big Bear, Julian etc...Unfortunately, being city bound didn't seem to deter the fires much.  Our house was just north of Downtown and we had a scare and our friends in Malibu lost the whole thing.  I can see where the portable shop would be valuable.  Crazy place to live, but we miss it like crazy.