Banned/Restricted Members

Rick,
How fascinating!

First you post here about being banned.  Then you write up an extensive post on the other forum about being banned, including accusations of my "behind-the-scenes manipulation and deceit," saying "it is absolutely mind boggling how much manipulation was (still is) going on."  You claim to have "much more info on this" (which of course you never share).  You add further accusations that I am "manipulating the statistics" on this forum.

Then you come along and essentially say "Oops, sorry, maybe I was wrong!"

Sounds like an old tactic used by politicians to smear an opponent, then apologize after the damage is already out.

One interesting slip on your part: you claim you were banned, but in your TF post you say "I spent 4 days deciding whether I should leave or not."  Woops!  So, did you decide to leave, or were you banned?

In that same TF thread, it's interesting to note that Bob Swenson and Mirko also play the same game, falsely claiming they were banned from the FOG.  In fact, that entire discussion was nothing more than all the TF guys gathering around and sympathizing with each other about being banned.  At one point, one of you actually calls for a "group hug."

I have attached a screen shot of Rick's post on the other forum.

Thanks,
Matthew
 
Brice, maybe you need to take a deep breath and a timeout.  At this point, your posts don't look like you are trying to benefit the forum.  They just look like you are pissed off and going to make your point no matter what.  Nothing in life is perfect.  This is just a forum, not life or death.  Approximatetly half this country are Democrats and half Republicans with vastly different beliefs but we all get along for the most part.  I think it is the same here only in a micro version.  Can't we maybe agree to disagree and move on?  
 
Man this place is getting more and more surreal (and creepy) all the time --- I haven't spent too much time on many forums but is this normal?  It can't be, can it?  Wheels within wheels , I can't get a good foot hold on anything ----- this needs to all be fixed before things become too convoluted and unfixable ------ I know I don't know what's going on here or to what extent coarse words have been exchanged but hopefully reasonable minds will prevail. 

Justin
 
Justin F. said:
Man this place is getting more and more surreal (and creepy) all the time --- I haven't spent too much time on many forums but is this normal?  It can't be, can it?  Wheels within wheels , I can't get a good foot hold on anything ----- this needs to all be fixed before things become too convoluted and unfixable ------ I know I don't know what's going on here or to what extent coarse words have been exchanged but hopefully reasonable minds will prevail.   

Justin

I'm thinking the same thing.THIS FORUM IS ON FIRE!!!

BTW What part of Louisiana are you?  Are you getting ready for GUSTAV?
Well,good luck!
 
Good Afternoon,
The bottom line is, it doesn't matter whether the destructive habits are obvious or vague, or whether they come from a new member or someone with a lot of posts.  They are all harmful.

Now that they are fully recognized, let's stop both kinds.

Thanks,
Matthew
 
Good Morning,
Just an explanatory note: I have lifted the ban on the TF moderators.

I have also created a new category, called "Restricted," for those members who abused the PM system.  "Restricted" members cannot send PMs, view the FOG member list, or delete their posts.  They can continue to use the forum normally in all other ways.

This adds an extra layer of administrative oversight that I wish was not necessary, and it's unfortunate that some members have made this necessary.  But the "Restricted" category seems like a good way of offering a fair compromise that I hope will solve problems. 

I have edited the first post in this discussion to reflect these changes.

Thanks,
Matthew
 
Well, I know you've been taking a beating lately in regards to how you've handled these issues, but, this seems to be very fair. Thank you for reconsidering this and coming up with this compromise.
 
Matthew,

Why am I restricted again?
I haven't posted since my last restriction, you claimed at that time I got 34 complaints, ok fair, but then a week later you lifted the restrictions??
and now it back...What gives Man??

Mirko
 
Matthew, I never said that I was banned on that other post, I said that I was denied access.
You know I was and the storm I kicked up was in answer to your emails, not PMs, email.
Dear members, the controversy was over the fact that if I couldn't post on the FOG I wanted
my money back. A reasonable request but all it did was cause Matthew to have a hissy fit.
Now it will be fun to see what will happen when I post this. Will it be red lined. Will I be labeled a guest.
Will I be a 2008 contributor. Will I see Pictures.
Here goes.
Stand by 
Bob
 
Money back? Bob I like your posts and enjoy reading them, but Come on man, that was a DONATION - not a Fee. Donations you do not ask for refunds. It was a gift wasn't it?

 
Nickao, It was a donation, but if I can't partake than I would rather give my money to
a more worthy cause. Gee, a lousy 20 bucks, bet he doesn't have it.
Hey, Matthew, how much do you want for this forum? Maybe I can dig up an other 20.
Winter is coming.
Bob
 
Well there is obviously a lot more to this then I  need or want to know. I had a problem awhile back, hopefully things get worked out.
 
Bob,

You seem like an knowledgable old craftsman, act like one and stop your whining. If not go back to the other watering hole and leave us peace man.

Bob
 
Nickao,  Isn't Bpeters that  fowl  mouth poster that you chastised before.
Lookie here only 3 posts and he calls me an old Craftsman. I wonder if we have met.
Is he masquerading as someone else. Is it bpeters AKA Matthew, how intriging, will wonders
never cease. I have always wondered where all the low post attack dogs come from.
When the marionette master pulls the stings you never know what characters will show up next .
What say you Matthew, I know a lot of guys with 20 bucks.
Your favorite poster.
Bob 
 
Bob,

You must have saved more than that $20.00 by not accidentally cutting up weiners on your sawstop.

You'd be surprised how many weiners I have to buy every week 'cause my unsafe table saw keeps chewing them up.

 
I do not know Bpeters and yes he did post with some swear words.

Bpeters care to come out to us and give an email address and name? If not don't swear or pick on Bob or anyone again.

I will talk how you understand.

Shut the hell up. If you want to swear and put down people then have the balls to say who the F*** you are. There that is in your language Bpeters. See I can swear too.

Why do you think it is Matthew, any IP or other evidence  Bob?

Nickao
 
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