Bayonet hose ends with old smooth dust ports. Issues? Dust port retrofits?

[nms]

I have a TS 55 REQ and OF1010 which use the previous hose end type, and I'm considering buying a new CT MIDI.

Questions..

1. Is there any difference using the new style hose end with the OF1010? Does it fit over the dust port just as well?

2. Can I use the new style hose end in my TS 55 or is it not going to work well?

3. Is there a proper retrofit dust port for the TS 55 REQ which works without any extra nuisance? I think I recall hearing about an early model which made the saw unable to fit into the systainer properly.

4. If there are going to be annoyances with any of the above, should I just look at buying an old style hose end to put on my new hose? Those still available?

Thanks guys

 

[GarryMartin]

1. No. It's equally as bad! [wink] It's maybe a *little* bit more difficult to squish to the oval, but it does go on
2. Yes. The new hose end connector goes into the TS 55 REQ dust port just the same. You may find some residual dust in the "grooves" on the connector when taking it out though, so just be mindful of that
3. Yes. The replacement dust port with the locking elements is P/N 202096
4. You'll be fine. The old hoses aren't in current catalogues, but suppliers may have old stock

 

[nms]

Thanks Gary!

 

[jonathan-m]

These bayonet locking hose ends and dust ports are a nightmare.
With the odd exception here and there, nobody likes them, nobody thinks they are an improvement.
They are just vendor lock in to make compatibility with other brands more difficult.
The best of luck with them...

 

[nms]

These bayonet locking hose ends and dust ports are a nightmare.

This is why I wonder if I should just order one of these, which as far as I'm aware can be swapped onto the new hose: https://festoolshop.ca/487071

I've been pretty annoyed with the dust port flopping down on my TS 55 and dragging the hose though, so the new style TS 55 dust port which locks in place may be a good idea for me. But then again, the new style hose doesn't have issue with catching on stuff like the old ribbed one, so maybe it won't be an issue anymore.

 

[Cheese]

This is why I wonder if I should just order one of these, which as far as I'm aware can be swapped onto the new hose: https://festoolshop.ca/487071

I've been pretty annoyed with the dust port flopping down on my TS 55 and dragging the hose though, so the new style TS 55 dust port which locks in place may be a good idea for me. But then again, the new style hose doesn't have issue with catching on stuff like the old ribbed one, so maybe it won't be an issue anymore.

Just look around for NOS on the older 487071 hose end. I located 3 of them locally and purchased them for future use. The new bayonet style 500669 hose end is pathetic.

The newer style locking dust port for the TS/TSC is a winner.

 

[Claimdude]

+1 What Cheese said. I have picked up several used hose ends since Festool in its infinite wisdom decided to change them.

Jack

 

[nms]

The newer style locking dust port for the TS/TSC is a winner.

But the locking dust port is meant for the bayonet style ends isn't it? I thought it may not work as well when matched with the old style hose end?

 

[Cheese]

But the locking dust port is meant for the bayonet style ends isn't it? I thought it may not work as well when matched with the old style hose end?

And your absolutely correct...here's what happens when you mix the old with the new. You use the new sander for a while and then you need to change the sander to another one.  As you disconnect the sander, it deposits a large pile of dust on the very area you've been sanding. In my case it was fine white drywall dust deposited on a black wool rug...not good.  The rug was not happy, the home owner was not happy.

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Notice the small amount of residue on the old style port in the background.

Unfortunately, this was another half-baked Festool solution to a problem that didn't exist. And...good luck trying to clear up this issue as the Kapex debacle took something like 10-12 years to finally bring to fruition. 

 

[rmhinden]

And your absolutely correct...here's what happens when you mix the old with the new. You use the new sander for a while and then you need to change the sander to another one.  As you disconnect the sander, it deposits a large pile of dust on the very area you've been sanding. In my case it was fine white drywall dust deposited on a black wool rug...not good.  The rug was not happy, the home owner was not happy.

I have found that if I leave the dust collector running when removing the hose, it removes this dust.  Of course, this is easy for me as the auto-stop ruction on my CT22 stopped working some time ago. 

Bob

 

[nms]

And your absolutely correct...here's what happens when you mix the old with the new.

So if I want to use the new locking dust port for the TS then I should forget about buying an old style hose end to go on my new hose.

 

[DynaGlide]

It's unfortunate but I've come into the habit of using the Bluetooth remote attached to my hose any time I'm removing the hose from a tool. It's an extra step that avoids the mess but one I shouldn't have to take. In practice it isn't a big deal but still a nuisance.

This is from an old post I made below. I've used this setup for a couple months now and it's the way to go. I despise the locking hose end. Especially on the Domino, it's so hard to get on the tool locking connection:

This may be of interest to some. The old style hose connectors are all gone. .however, if you take a D36 to D27 reducer available from either Festool ($$$) or from Industrial Vacuum for $15 http://www.industrialvacs.com/Tool_Socket_connects_suction_hose_to_power_tool_p/h302000535.htm , which I just got a few minutes ago in the mail, the portion that is essentially the 'old style' vac hose end is reverse threaded and removable from the D36 end. It's a snug fit putting it on a cleantec adapter. Hope this helps.