Best pots and pans storage ideas

afish

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So, Im starting to think about redoing our kitchen and want to address some of the known problem areas so I can plan box sizes accordingly.  First issue was the kitchen aid mixer but thats easy and its getting the rev-a-shelf soft close lift for it in a dedicated 13.5" cabinet.  My next issue is Pots and pans.  I know there are commercially available products and might end up with one of those but has anyone came up with a custom built solution that works good.  Im also interested in opinions on the likes/dislikes of the commercial ones.  I will pulling my stove out an extra 6" along that wall so I will have an extra deep 30"w x 30" deep lower immediately to the right of the stove. So im planning on making that cabinet the pots and pans cabinet since it will be XL.  I have no room for hanging or display type storage so thats out.
 
Yea, no stacking for sure thats our current system in a pantry type cabinet and of course its also the farthest cabinet from the stove possible... [mad]
 
This was the best I have seen so far. Any advantage you chefs see to storing standing up like in the pic or just flat on drawers or pullouts?

After thinking about it. The laying flat in a drawer or pullout the lids could be stored directly on top of correct pan but the handles seem like they would be more of an issue that way. 
 

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When designing our island, it turned out that there was not enough room at the end past the Jenn-Air for a short section to place anything on from the fridge which is directly opposite.  I added an 8" hollow open cabinet.  In the top portion I installed two brass rods
and a couple hooks to hold pot lids vertically.  I put a single rod across the bottom portion that traps the flat baking sheets.  It's till a great addition after 35 years.  It solves the age old problem of mostly flat things being pilled in stacks and sucking up space.
 
We have BIG drawers one each side of our stove, that are to full counter height, and have a second drawer inside for lids etc. High sides help keep things inside the drawer.

#1 favorite is the pull out drawer for the garbage/recycling, and I have considered turning it into a bump drawer opener, so it can be opened without using slimy hands. Other than under the kitchen sink, everything is drawers.
 
I'm not a foodie and I am definitely not a cook.  I have one frying pan (eggs), a waffle maker, a small and large pot and a cast iron grill (which takes up very little space and I never use it). 

But a quick google search shows that this is an area of major concern.  The images show a huge variety of approaches (but apparently hanging the pots over the peninsula is no longer in vogue.  I had a customer for many years (Enclume) that was in that business.  I worked for a company that made wire forms and we made hooks for the racks.
https://enclume.com/
https://www.google.com/search?q=pots+and+pans+storage&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFyIyUibX3AhWBVt8KHVdwCPsQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1600&bih=775&dpr=1
 
You can have either of these mutually exclusive scenarios:

A) Efficient space use

B) Efficient access

All the fancy "easy access with efficient space use" are inevitably lies. Once you compare them to "simple" dense shelving you find the savings miniscule and the ease of access still not as good.

From those my experience - even after living in a VERY small flat one with just a "kitchenette" - B >>>> A up to a point I would REDUCE THE POT/PAN count just to avoid any stacking - pending SO agreement.
I would gear the oft-used pot/pan count such that all can be single-height placed and one-deep placed and handle-to-front-placed. No vertical placement or anything fancy. Just simple adjustable-height shelves aka LR32 and a couple extra shelfs/pins stored in one of the cabinets, so they can be used as/if needed when pan/pot composition changes. It will change..
Drawers are also OK-ish, but no a fan for pots/pans. Rails and drawers sides just consume the space which they "save" by allowing a double-depth storage. So they end up a wash with accessibility, complexity and (less) flexibility being a negative.

That said,
  it is practical to have one-two cabinets which are specifically designated for rare-use items and which presume stacking and two-deep storage. Such cabinet(s) should be chosen at the farthest/least accessible location. Since easy-access is not sought, there is no point in making them any complicated. Just high shelfs are as hood as it gets. These are alos greta for kitchedn appliances etc. basically "general storage" cabinets.

My 2c -> YMMV esp. ref SO views ....

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What we do for small pans/pots - which would otherwise waste (too) deep shelf space - is we use the back of the shelf for long-term food storage. Stuff like Sugar, Flour, Vinegar, Pasta, which we buy in bulk usually. Works good as one does not often need to get it and is still just one pan/pot away. It is still stored one-deep in a way that if there is a bag of sugar, there would bo no other item in front of it - except possibly another bag of sugar.
 
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