Big New Announcement from Kreg

SRSemenza said:
Looks pretty good. Probably just what I need.  Wish I didn't have to wait till August to check it out.

Seth

Agreed Seth.  Could justify throwing this in the back of my truck (back seat, anyway) and bringing it along to cabinet installs.  I drill a ton on site (overkill at times), so having this will speed things up.

Jon
 
In my mind I was predicting a more Domino like unit ... not a station. That thing is still huge! In a workshop that unit virtually dictates it's own small bench.

Comments on that handle already made - the black plastics doesn't inspire robustness.

My guess is this'll see some improvements before a 240V is released and I'm tempted by it (fortunately).

Now if some bright spark turned it into a CMS module I'd be very interested [cool] [big grin]

 
Nice--I like the dust collection and spring-loaded stops.  I began using Kreg pocket hole jigs about ten years ago but didn't like them because of the mis-alignment.  Now that I use pocket hole screws with the Domino, I'm lovin' my Kreg jigs.  Compared to clamping and gluing, I can see this machine paying for itself in the cost of my time within a reasonable period.  Granted, I do this as a "hobby," but to me it's a part-time job I do for myself and my family.  I don't make furniture or install trim carpentry as a fun pastime--I'm doing it for the finished product for my home, so I'm always looking to save time and reduce hassle as long as the finished product looks good.

--John
 
I like to do wainscoting and Bilt in cabinetry  I was eyeing the original electric foreman but couldn't justify the cost.  This will hopefully be in my shop come August .
 
I think the spring loaded stops are a good idea. I am not sure about the dust collection--- it is hard to tell if the bottom of the new machine is open like the more expensive Foreman is, or if the bottom is an enclosed "tub". I added a plywood base to my Foreman machine, but the dust collection is pretty bad, and that's with a powerful Grizzly dust collector hooked up, still most of the chips fall into the base and have to be cleaned out manually.
 
copcarcollector said:
I think the spring loaded stops are a good idea. I am not sure about the dust collection--- it is hard to tell if the bottom of the new machine is open like the more expensive Foreman is, or if the bottom is an enclosed "tub". I added a plywood base to my Foreman machine, but the dust collection is pretty bad, and that's with a powerful Grizzly dust collector hooked up, still most of the chips fall into the base and have to be cleaned out manually.

Have you tried it with a vacuum? Maybe the dust collector just can't pull enough air volume through?

Seth
 
I can see this being a great ADDITION to their line for those who would use more pocket hole joinery but don't because of the time, but hope that this is not intended to replace the more expensive professional model.  I too am a domino for alignment guy and then pocket screw as clamps while glue is drying or as just a fastener if glue is not required.

Peter
 
Sean Ackerman said:
jimmylittle said:
Kreg's pocket hole jigs weren't always plastic.  I have this vintage Kreg Jig, which I love, but the plastic one is far more versatile.

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THAT is awesome.  When did you purchase?

I received it as a gift last year.  I have no idea when it was made.  I did look up the patent number stamped on it, and it was  patented in 1989
 
I have read this thread for awhile, but don't understand. Why do some of you mix the two - pocket holes and Dominos?
 
jimmylittle said:
Sean Ackerman said:
jimmylittle said:
Kreg's pocket hole jigs weren't always plastic.  I have this vintage Kreg Jig, which I love, but the plastic one is far more versatile.

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THAT is awesome.  When did you purchase?

I received it as a gift last year.  I have no idea when it was made.  I did look up the patent number stamped on it, and it was  patented in 1989

I have had the same one for about 10 years. I recall buying it in haste when the first plastic one (K3?) came out & before it (the K2) was discontinued. Back when my motto was "Metal is always better than Plastic". I have softened a bit since those days.  [cool]

Sean - I might be interested in letting it go, in exchange for, say a new Kreg Foreman...  [poke]

Grandpa's motto, for what it's worth, was "If one nail is good 3, must be better".

RMW
 
grbmds said:
I have read this thread for awhile, but don't understand. Why do some of you mix the two - pocket holes and Dominos?

Dominoes provide alignment as well as strength and pocket screws provide clamping strength while the glue on the dominoes sets up.  Both are good techniques, but pocket screwed joints need to be clamped as the screws are driven in to keep the joint properly aligned.  The combination gives the best of two worlds. 

 
grbmds said:
I have read this thread for awhile, but don't understand. Why do some of you mix the two - pocket holes and Dominos?

Dominoes for alignment, pocket screws to hold them together. Works great for frameless cabinet boxes. I even use it for shop drawer boxes.

RMW
 
Richard/RMW said:
grbmds said:
I have read this thread for awhile, but don't understand. Why do some of you mix the two - pocket holes and Dominos?

Dominoes for alignment, pocket screws to hold them together. Works great for frameless cabinet boxes. I even use it for shop drawer boxes.

RMW

Yes, that is the reason I spent the money on the Domino. I think pocket holes are great and easy to do. I've used them for years to put together workshop cabinets and drawers; even a few larger projects. However, they tend to move slightly even when clamped if you aren't careful. For workshop drawers or cabinets, a 32nd or even a 16th might not be a problem. For furniture or "upstairs" cabinets, that just won't do.
 
For those who use both - the Domino and the pocket hole -  Do you drill the pocket holes prior to assembly, or after?  Relates to how easily intersecting joints are maintained in registration.

Thanks
 
DrD said:
For those who use both - the Domino and the pocket hole -  Do you drill the pocket holes prior to assembly, or after?  Relates to how easily intersecting joints are maintained in registration.

Thanks

Dr. D  I drill my pocket holes prior to assembly.  I do everything before assembly.  Domino, pocket holes, edge banding and line boring.

If you drill the pocket holes after you assemble the box, you'd have to clamp the pocket jig to the box and it could be a hassle to get the jig clamped in the middle of a cabinet box.

Eric
 
erock said:
DrD said:
For those who use both - the Domino and the pocket hole -  Do you drill the pocket holes prior to assembly, or after?  Relates to how easily intersecting joints are maintained in registration.

Thanks

Dr. D  I drill my pocket holes prior to assembly.   I do everything before assembly.  Domino, pocket holes, edge banding and line boring.

If you drill the pocket holes after you assemble the box, you'd have to clamp the pocket jig to the box and it could be a hassle to get the jig clamped in the middle of a cabinet box.

Eric

Plus you lose one of the advantages of the screws by drilling them after ...................  you would need to clamp if using glue. Never be able to get the holes drilled and screws in before the glue starts to set. Much easier and faster to drill them before too.

Seth
 
grbmds said:
For furniture or "upstairs" cabinets, that just won't do.

I had the same problem.  The Domino solves it.  I don't waste time gluing the dominos when I use pocket screws--just spread glue on the flats and tighten the screws.  Hope this helps.

--John
 
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