Boom Arm and 36 hose

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cgmojoco

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Will the boom arm hold a 36 size hose? (I know the 27 fits) in the arm itself?
The rings that the hose has to go through on the boom itself look like they might only fit a 27?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this has been covered before, I couldn't find it.
 
It'll hold a D36, but you'll have to squeeze the hose before sliding it into the clamps.  You won't be able to slide the hose easily so try getting it placed properly the first time.
 
I use the 36mm in my boom arm, it just takes a little patience to get it in the clips for holding the hose. I bought at 27mm pigtail from Tom Bellemare for using my domino and sanders it worksgreat

Sal
 
Yep, the 36mm fits fine.  I use a 27 mm too that I have drped over the top and attached with velcro strips every 12-15 inches...has worked great for a couple of years, now.

The pig-tail that Sal mentions would be a very nice option too.

Scot
 
As stated above, it does fit once you massage it into the clips. My issue with it is that, at least to me, its a little more cumbersome. Maybe its my 36 hose thats still very new and always wanting to curl up. It seems to get in the way of things a lot.

Then again, Im still a newb so maybe it more user error vs device.
 
The new hoses have a tendency to want to curl, but they will relax in time.  Mine pretty much stay where I want them. You can try stretching them out in the sun to help them relax a bit.

Scot
 
Thanks

Yah, I am ordering the 36 dust extractor with the auto-clean and it comes with a 36 hose (for best use with the Planex).

What is the 27 pigtail?  I mean, where would I find this, how long is it? is it AS, and how would ya hook it up? (With the Y joint?)
 
Some tools like the kapex accept the 36. My domino and smaller sanders use the 27. Bob M sells a 27mm pigtail/short hose, about a foot long so you can keep the 36 in the vac/boom and just use the short 27 attached to the end for tools that only use a 27
 
ScotF said:
Yep, the 36mm fits fine.  I use a 27 mm too that I have drped over the top and attached with velcro strips every 12-15 inches...has worked great for a couple of years, now.

The pig-tail that Sal mentions would be a very nice option too.

Scot
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I actually ordered the same clips that come with the boom arm through my dealer.  I now have the 27 and 36mm hoses on the boom arm, they are located on either side.  

It looks a bit more sleek to me since everything matches, but I'm sure the Velcro works just as well.

Best,
Daniel
 
cgmojoco said:
Thanks

Yah, I am ordering the 36 dust extractor with the auto-clean and it comes with a 36 hose (for best use with the Planex).

What is the 27 pigtail?  I mean, where would I find this, how long is it? is it AS, and how would ya hook it up? (With the Y joint?)
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I noticed that Paul-Marcel mentioned the pigtail (whip end) that I sell...

I cut the actual 27 mm diameter hose at about 24" and add two 27 mm diameter "tool ends" to it. This allows you to push one end of the Whip into a 36 mm tool end and connect the other end to a sander or other device that requires a 27 mm diameter connection. The Festool sanders and a few other tools require the smaller, 27 mm diameter tool connection.

With this Whip End, you could use the 36 mm hose you mentioned and connect it to any of the Festool tools Available in North America. The typical desire for this solution is when people want to put a 36 mm hose on a boom arm type set up. The 36 mm hose works for the big stuff but you need a more flexible end and one that will fit the smaller tool ports. The 27 mm Whip End is one solution.

The original idea for the Whip End is totally attributable to Dave Ronyak. I hope you're well, Dave! We haven't heard from you lately...

Tom
 
Thank you all -

Goal-->Disconnecting Festools from vac = optional.

Opening this up a bit more as I want to see I if I can have everything I need already in when the 36 AC comes into my 'shop' (Garage).

36 AC comes with a 11' 36mm hose (that also works with the Planex).

The pigtail 27mm converter should work fine connecting to the end of that 11' 36 with planex connector hose?---I don't see any reason it would not.

Tom, what is the length on that pigtail?---Guessing its a foot or two?  I'd like to be able to run my sander all over a full sheet; assuming this will work fine, just double checking that I don't need anything else or have to worry about to little or to much cord.---I guess I can always wait and find out, but my dealer local seems to take weeks to get any part in that isn't in stock--so forethought isn't wasted.

I think I understand how this 36mm to 27mm pigtail setup would work with my boom.

I'll throw the 11' 36mm on the boom connecting it directly to dust vac, then can use the end of that 36 on tools that need it (most tools will benefit from the 36 over the 27....2200, t75, kapex).

With the pigtail, I can just unplug whatever machine I have on the 36 at the time, then put the 27 converter pigtail onto end of the 36 coming from the boom and will be ready to use my RO 150 all over an entire sheet if I so wished...seems sander would benefit from added flexibility expected from the 27mm pigtail too.

Final thoughts on the best way to keep 3 tools hooked up to the extractor at the same time?

Specifically:
Kapex constantly on a 36mm line that I never have to disconnect (unless I'm going out of shop on site)--this I'm assuming will never have to be using the 36mm that I'll be putting on the boom.  I guess I would through a Y connector (Does the Y have 50mm, 36mm or 27mm connections and can it go directly into the vac or do I have to have hose from vac to the Y first)?
36mm line that I can use from end of boom for 2200 router or t75 (I can switch these as I think TWO dedicated 36 lines would be much more complicated to setup...and though I'm normally game for overkill this would be overkill*2 which isn't my cup of tea).

27mm dedicated also on the boom with a new set of clips---how I would connect this back at the Y I don't know...maybe I need a W ;)  I could bypass switching out the pigtail this way...but then I might have a 36mm pulling one way on the boom  (to my T75 sitting on the workbench) and my 27mm that is connected to the tool I'm currently using going the other way.

Ugh, I'm stuck trying to figure out how to do that (dedicated lines the three tools).

I'll just setup the pigtail and the Y for the kapex with option to switch freely between 27 and 36 hopefully not burning out my connections making em loose over time

Goal-->Disconnecting Festools from vac = optional.
 
The pigtail 27mm converter should work fine connecting to the end of that 11' 36 with planex connector hose?
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Yes, it goes inside the 36 mm tool end.

Tom, what is the length on that pigtail?
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I cut the hose to 2' and add the connectors. That seems to give enough flexibility to sanding operations, the 36 mm not only doesn't fit sanders but is too stiff.

(Does the Y have 50mm, 36mm or 27mm connections and can it go directly into the vac or do I have to have hose from vac to the Y first)?
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The Y-connector has three 50 mm ends and one cap.

Tom

 
I just thought I'd add a couple of points:

You really do NOT need to purchase a second set of hose brackets for your Boom Arm to mount a second hose.  Each of the brackets have two cord clips -- one on either side -- that you can use to help strap your second hose to your Boom Arm.  I hook rubber bands onto the cord clips on one side, stretch around the second hose and hook onto the cord clips on the other side.  You could also use the velcro straps mentioned above.  

The Boom Arm comes with a 1.5m extension cord, a 1.5m D50 hose (with fittings on both ends) and a hose connector.  The extension cord and hose get plugged directly into the vac and lead up to about where the upper and lower Boom Arm tubes connect.  Your Plug-it cord plugs into the extension cord and your D27 or D36 hose will plug into the hose connector and onto the D50 hose.  

When hanging a second hose from your Boom Arm, you can either disconnect your hose and Plug-it to switch to your other hose and Plug-it, or, if you want both connected at once, you could install a Y into the hose connector and plug both hoses into the Y and install an electrical Y adaptor into the end of the Boom Arm's extension cord so that you can leave both Plug-it cords plugged in.  Using the Y to plug two hoses into the vac may not be what you want in all cases without also installing blast gates...

Tom's post above about the Festool Y having three 50mm ends may be a little misleading.  The ends of the Festool Y adaptor are not all the same -- the one leg will fit directly into your vac OR into a hose connector, while the other two legs are sized to accept the vac-end fittings of your Festool hoses.  The Y also has a plug that will cap off one of these two legs.
 
Is there a blast gate that would be compatible with the Y-connector i.e. if one would like to have two hoses connected to it at all times and just close one side at a time with a blast gate (one for each Y-side) vs. unplugging the hose and capping it?
 
I haven't tried it but you could conceivably use two Festool #497926, one on each outlet of the Y.

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Tom
 
Cheers for the post Tom but I'm trying to figure out the plugit side of things, I've got the hoses sorted (I think) so is there a Y piece that you can plug into the end of a plugit to turn it into a double plugit?

Really sorry for the hijack cgmojoco
 
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