Buying the new OF2200 Router is STUPID!

Dan Clark

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Dear Festool,

I looked at the new OF2200.  Buying that router would be incredibly STUPID.  A MORONIC decision...

First of all I have three routers now, including the OF1400.  And I'm going to get the MFK700.  And, I need the Kapex.  There's absolutely NO reason to buy the OF2200!

Good grief, how stupid do you think I am?!?  Give me a break!  You really want me to buy that router?

OK, OK... It's got lots of nice features including a nice new base for rail use.  Yes, I know you could do some amazing things with all that horsepower, or wattage, or what ever you call it.  Yeah, yeah, I know it looks wonderfully ergonomic!  And the dust collection will probably be spectacular.  And it has a very nice new base system.  And I know you can plunge straight through to China, but who needs to rout 80mm?!?

I have good routers!  I do NOT need the OF2200.  So there!  My mind is made up.  I am NOT going to buy that router!

I swear that I won't look at the video again.  Well, maybe once.  Or twice.  But I'm still NOT going to buy it!  Are we clear?!?  You can talk 'til you're blue in the face and I still might not get it!

Dan.

p.s. Do they think I have a fetish or something?  Hmmmph!  The nerve.  Picking on a poor defenseless Festoolaholic!  :'( Throwing that tasty, DELECTABLE morsel in my face...  Here's my last word on the subject - I will not...  uhh... probably...  errr... may not buy it!
 
Yes, I'm being EXTREMELY facetious!  The OF2200 looks VERY nice.  I was being truthful that I don't really need it.  But day-am, that is once sweet router! ;D

Dan.
 
So Dan, after you DON'T buy the OF2200 please send it to me. I am for sure on the MFK 700, Kapex and pretty sure on the MFT3 but that really cuts into my budget and as a help to you and me I hereby claim forever and foremost to gladly accept the OF2200 that you don't buy, CLEAR??? :D ;D :o ::) Fred
 
Fred,

Please accept my sincere gratitude for your assistance with my addiction.  ;D

Dan.
 
If the price is set at $800, it's going to have strong competition from the older models.  I need to learn how it is revolutionary.
I can clearly see how the Kapex is revolutionary and worth going all out. I'm not seeing the message as clearly with the OF2200.

I do like the new micro website,
 
alg said:
If the price is set at $800, it's going to have strong competition from the older models.  I need to learn how it is revolutionary.
I can clearly see how the Kapex is revolutionary and worth going all out. I'm not seeing the message as clearly with the OF2200.

I do like the new micro website,

Hi alg,

The OF2200 may not appear as revolutionary as many other Festool releases, but revolutionary features are not what it's all about to some users. Having had a bit of a go with this router I can see it appealing to people who need big routers, but still want control and safety, plus inherent reliability and build quality.

I am not a user of big routers, I find the OF1400 big enough for me... but the OF2200 was a piece of cake to operate despite it's size and power. There is something to be said being able to start up a 2200 watt router without feeling like you have to hang on tight for the ride.
 
Hey Dan,

I agree, but I'm definitely going to buy that router!  ;D

Considering that I wrote this review of the OF 2000
 
Dan Clark said:
Please accept my sincere gratitude for your assistance with my addiction.  ;D

Dan.

We admitted we were powerless over Festool - that our shops had become unmanageable!

Tim C
 
Buying the OF2200 is stupid, and for one VERY good reason - I've just checked the microsite again to confirm it - it doesn't have a plug-it cord!!!

Obviously it draws too much juice - can't see any other reason why Festool R&D would omit that...

Hopefully, when it does reach UK shores, they will have fitted it with a plug-it (since our voltage is 2x yours, the current is 1/2 yours, so the plug-it may possibly be OK over here). Here's hoping!
 
Our shops are just fine it is the finances that are not being managed.

You are so right Dan. Who needs that fancy drop down dust shroud anyway. :D The OF2200 is probably the second coolest router I have ever see. I think the MFK700 is the coolest. Now I just need to win the lottery before I can buy 2-4 MFT3s the MFK700 and the Kapex when she finally arrives. Darn I still need to pick the LR32 and rail a ts55. got the 75 but the green anti splitter does not engage when cutting just through 3/4" stock.

Eiji
 
jonny round boy said:
Buying the OF2200 is stupid, and for one VERY good reason - I've just checked the microsite again to confirm it - it doesn't have a plug-it cord!!!

Obviously it draws too much juice - can't see any other reason why Festool R&D would omit that...

Hopefully, when it does reach UK shores, they will have fitted it with a plug-it (since our voltage is 2x yours, the current is 1/2 yours, so the plug-it may possibly be OK over here). Here's hoping!
JRB,

My what sharp little eyes you have (said the big bad wolf).  I checked the microsite carefully too and one of the Gallery pics shows the cord going straight into the router.  Hmm...  Well that's an issue. 

For me it's a little less of an issue that it might be for some.  I use a spider attachment to my  boom arm:
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Of course then we have the circuit issue.  It sucks a lot of juice.  Super-nice router though.

Dan.
 
Dan Clark said:
jonny round boy said:
Buying the OF2200 is stupid, and for one VERY good reason - I've just checked the microsite again to confirm it - it doesn't have a plug-it cord!!!

Obviously it draws too much juice - can't see any other reason why Festool R&D would omit that...

Hopefully, when it does reach UK shores, they will have fitted it with a plug-it (since our voltage is 2x yours, the current is 1/2 yours, so the plug-it may possibly be OK over here). Here's hoping!
JRB,

My what sharp little eyes you have (said the big bad wolf).   I checked the microsite carefully too and one of the Gallery pics shows the cord going straight into the router.   Hmm...  Well that's an issue.   

For me it's a little less of an issue that it might be for some.   I use a spider attachment to my   boom arm:
6_15_04_07_11_34_52.jpg


Of course then we have the circuit issue.  It sucks a lot of juice.  Super-nice router though.

Dan.

  As far as the attached cord goes, I can live without it on a big router.  I've had many power tools & don't recall any with the detachable cords before Festool hit our shores, now it can't be lived without?  Fact is I love the detachable cords, especially on my most frequently used tools.  These "hand held shapers" are not for everything though & I'll just once again need to recall how to be careful.  ;)  I will say that I now always seem to remove the cords & hoses as soon as I'm finished with a cut with any Festool item.  It's a good habit, as I hate to see a good tool hit the ground :'(
  As far as the amperage, running the OF 2000 router on the CT33 seems excessive to me.  It's alot of power through the CT33 power cord & it gets hot, the cord does.  I've begun plugging the OF 2000 into another circuits outlet, since I once blew a circuit. & use a remote control "plugin" type switch to turn on the CT33 remotely.  This works very well, & I recommend it.  The circuits are all 20amp & sufficient fo rall other work I've done plugged into them.  Now, I believe the remote device is a 110v Lone Ranger, the red one. 
  I don't want to abuse these expensive tools, I love them & they must last my lifetime 
  Any thoughts on this setup? 
 
I think the combo of an OF2200 using the CT with autostart may be an issue.  There's a lot of current flowing there.  I'm not sure, but I think that the 2200 may need some sort of autoswitch-enabled extension cord.  I.e., the extension cord would have two circuits - one for the autoswitch and one for the CT2200.  That way you could plug the CT cord into a socket on one electrical circuit and the OF2200 into another circuit. 

I'm planning on running a two 20 amp circuits when I rewire my garage/shop.  The CT's pull between 3 and 10 amps.  The OF2200 pulls something like 18 amps.    That's a lot of amps.  That means the combo would be over 20 amps minimum. 

Sounds like an issue.

Dan.
 
Dan Clark said:
I think the combo of an OF2200 using the CT with autostart may be an issue.   There's a lot of current flowing there.  I'm not sure, but I think that the 2200 may need some sort of autoswitch-enabled extension cord.  I.e., the extension cord would have two circuits - one for the autoswitch and one for the CT2200.   That way you could plug the CT cord into a socket on one electrical circuit and the OF2200 into another circuit.   

I'm planning on running a two 20 amp circuits when I rewire my garage/shop.   The CT's pull between 3 and 10 amps.   The OF2200 pulls something like 18 amps.    That's a lot of amps.   That means the combo would be over 20 amps minimum.   

Sounds like an issue.

Dan.

Dan,
  I have seperate circuits in my shop & am able to plug the OF 2000 router into this seperate circuit with no issues at all.  One circuit for both is trouble I believe.  I use a remote control switch to operate the CT33, & it seems to work perfectly.  I keep the remote in my pocket & start & stop the CT33 seperately from the router.  Not a big deal.  None of the other Festool items seem to have this excessive amperage draw when run through the CT's.  These are big routers, both the OF 2000 & 2200.
  Also, I suppose it's not an issue in Europe at all.
 
You're right Terp,
in Europe this is no Problem. Here you can run a Festool CS70 Tablesaw with 2200 Watt on the Outlet of the CT22/ 33. This works on usual 16 Amp Fuses. So the new Router will also!

The only stupid Thing will be th Price  :'(
 
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