c12 drill vs. impact

[Sparktrician]

I just bought a Domino - I'm not sure how long the Kreg jig and I will remain friends!  Anyone want to buy a biscuit jointer?   [big grin]

Heh, heh, heh!!!  My Kreg tool and I seem to be joined at the hip, but my biscuit joiner is going bye-bye as soon as I can plunk down the bucks for the Domino tool and a Systainer full of dominoes.  [smile]

 

[jmbfestool]

IMHO impacts are for the real tough jobs not driving most screws.  The lack of torque is a big deal for me as I have bad Rheumatoid arthritis.  That being said I usually use a screw gun for most screws.  But lag screws in decking and drilling hard materials like steel or aluminum are where you need the impact.

Dont know if im reading it rite but a impact requires alot less pressure you can push the drill with your little finger and then pull the trigger with other finger from your other hand  and the drill will not rotate only the screw.  Wont this help for people with Rheumatoid arhtritis (You)  so if I was you I would us it for most screws.

JMB

 

[-woodsman-]

I have the C12 and just love it and all the accessory chucks too. but am I the only one that has learned how to properly use an impact driver?

"Its too fast" uhm hello? it has a variable speed trigger.

"Its too powerful for small fasteners" With that variable speed trigger comes variable torque. pull lightly on the trigger and you get a slow spinning low torque drive. and visa versa.

I do use my impact to build furniture and my C12 too. I find I have much more control on the depth of drive with an impact than I do with the best of torque settings on a drill. No way can a torque setting on a drill give you consistent depth of drive into hardwoods. there is just too much variablilty in the density from one part of the board to the next. I can also drive the small screws just as well with an impact as my C12. All it takes is a little practice with your trigger finger.

I have to agree with Eiji here.  On a job this spring I had to remove all the hinges from every door twice.  First because the wood was stripped and needed to be filled (poor factory installation of the screws) and then they decided to changed the hinges.  I used a impact driver, C12 and a screw driver to see the differences.  I had to to something to make it a little more interesting.  I got the same results from all three tools.  Some stripping with all.  Granted the screws where very soft and a pain to work with.  There are definitely times when one is better than another.  But I think a screw driver stands out more than the other two which are almost interchangeable for me.  A good trick for filling screw holes is to make square rips at just under a quarter inch cut a pile of them to six inch lengths and sharpen in a pencil sharpener.  Glue and drive into the striped wood.  Dowels would be better but not always available on site.  

 

[jmbfestool]

I have the C12 and just love it and all the accessory chucks too. but am I the only one that has learned how to properly use an impact driver?

"Its too fast" uhm hello? it has a variable speed trigger.

"Its too powerful for small fasteners" With that variable speed trigger comes variable torque. pull lightly on the trigger and you get a slow spinning low torque drive. and visa versa.

I do use my impact to build furniture and my C12 too. I find I have much more control on the depth of drive with an impact than I do with the best of torque settings on a drill. No way can a torque setting on a drill give you consistent depth of drive into hardwoods. there is just too much variablilty in the density from one part of the board to the next. I can also drive the small screws just as well with an impact as my C12. All it takes is a little practice with your trigger finger.

I have to agree with Eiji here.  On a job this spring I had to remove all the hinges from every door twice.  First because the wood was stripped and needed to be filled (poor factory installation of the screws) and then they decided to changed the hinges.  I used a impact driver, C12 and a screw driver to see the differences.  I had to to something to make it a little more interesting.  I got the same results from all three tools.  Some stripping with all.  Granted the screws where very soft and a pain to work with.  There are definitely times when one is better than another.  But I think a screw driver stands out more than the other two which are almost interchangeable for me.  A good trick for filling screw holes is to make square rips at just under a quarter inch cut a pile of them to six inch lengths and sharpen in a pencil sharpener.  Glue and drive into the striped wood.  Dowels would be better but not always available on site.  

Seems extreme  6inches?  Did they use 4 inch or more screws for hinges?!?.  I just simply get a bit of scrap wood and use my chisel and splice a few pieces of wood and pick the best possible one and tap them into the holes then use a chisel and tap them off works for me.

JMB