C18 available and on UK Festool website

[pingvinlakrits]

DB10:
at least I will get to return to the very same customer with the CTL SYS in a few weeks time, my SYS should arrive first week in April. With a SYS4 on top of the MIDI it was a bit challenging to lift the vac clear of the stairs while carrying three Systainers in the other hand. I am no midget but it was awkward up the spiral staircase.  Next trip will be Domino with CTL SYS for on site mounting/fitting of cabinets. Looking forward to it.

 

[DB10]

Apologies for steering away from the C18 thread but it will be interesting to see who manages to get the first write up on the new vac, I guess alot of people will be interested on those first thoughts and the functionality of the new Vac.

Henrik, your write up on the Bosh drills was very informative, if you do get to do a write up on the vac I will look forward to it.

 

[pingvinlakrits]

DB10: will make sure to document and assess the CTL SYS as soon as it arrives, for sure. I will start a new thread or hook up to the appropriate thread.

As for this thread I am making sure there is a C18 for evaluation together with a DRC18/4 at the same time. I am not sure there will be anything exciting as I think the C15/C18 are so alike that any difference would be very slight in real use. The DRC18/4 has actually been impressive so far. I think they might make a great team.

 

[Peterm]

C18 Basic (bare tool) for £139 + VAT is an interesting possibility for anyone with existing 18v tools. Like I don't have enough drills already...

 

[neeleman]

The price of the C 18 is very interesting indeed.
I'm about to sell my C 12 Li-1.3 for the C 18 Basic with a BPC 18-2.6 Ah battery.
I then only have 10.8V and 18V machines which is the way to go for me.
And still a TI 15 which will be sold ASAP.

If only they would bring out a TI 18 Impact!!!!!!!

 

[jonny round boy]

If they only would bring out a TI 18 Impact!!!!!!!

I'm sure it's on the way. Not that I have any 'insider' knowledge, just a guess, but I can't see them not bringing one out. How long it will take is another matter... [unsure]

 

[promhandicam]

If they only would bring out a TI 18 Impact!!!!!!!

I'm sure it's on the way. Not that I have any 'insider' knowledge, just a guess, but I can't see them not bringing one out. How long it will take is another matter... [unsure]

Enough people have asked for it - I'd order one immediately if they brought one out. Surely it has to be the next 18v tool they announce although I'm not holding my breath as I'm still not convinced that Festool (Germany) actually listen to the people that keep them in business.

 

[AlexThePalex]

although I'm not holding my breath as I'm still not convinced that Festool (Germany) actually listen to the people that keep them in business.

Meh, lighten up, it's not all that negative. Of course not all requests can be granted, but quite a few actually have.

• We asked for a multitool, we got it.
• We asked for a suitcase vac, we got it.
• We asked for more robust on-site tools, we got it, with the integration of the Protool range.
• We asked for more cordless tools, slowly but surely the range gets extended.
• We asked for an impact, we got it, though it was a bit of a half-a#$%& attempt.

I've learned over the years Festool does take what we say here very seriously.

 

[Phil Beckley]

Hi
Rest assured Festool listen but not everything can be immediate and development of a product can take a lot of time
rg
Phil

 

[promhandicam]

Hi
Rest assured Festool listen but not everything can be immediate and development of a product can take a lot of time
rg
Phil

yebut they already have / had an impact driver, only in 15v, so it surely can't be that complicated to produce one as part of the growing 18v line up - it's not like developing something completely new like a domino or conturo.

 

[neeleman]

According to many users who are not satisfied with the TI 15 they can better make a copy of the Fein 18V Impact: ASCD 18 W4.
They already have the contacts with Fein when developing the Vecturo.
They only have to design a different battery bracket and it's a lot faster then designing a new model.
And keep it simple, no other features!
Although I've read that Fein did not develop some new models and that some are made in the PRC. [mad]

 

[pingvinlakrits]

OF COURSE an 18V impact is imminent; all we have to do is have me going to the sales rep and have him phone Festool and have them say it is _not_ coming at all.

Then we wait two-three weeks and presto - the new T18i will start shipping world wide.

Nah, seriously, I am a bit miffed that I bought a C15. Excellent drill of course but the prospect of a C18 and consolidating the line up into 18V and 10.8V feels better, just like some other smart people are doing.

 

[jgag]

Will be interesting to read what people think of it. 

I've just purchased T18 with 'free' battery offer.  Very pleased with performance. 

Richard UK

That's remarkably good value!  I'm very happy with my T15

But the old Makita Drills I hung onto have seriously tired batteries (and are no longer made) - I just wish I hadn't thrown my "free battery" card away - it would make more sense to but that (than spare batteries for an obsolete drill)

and I'm a sucker for new festools...

 

[ach_78]

Interestingly, the specs of the new C18 are weaker than the T18.

T18 :
Drilling diameter, wood/steel 45/16 mm
Torque adjustment 0,5-8/0,5-6 Nm
Max. torque, wood/steel 35/50 Nm
Weight with Li Ion 1,7 kg

C18 :
Drilling diameter, wood/steel 40/16 mm
Torque adjustment 0,8-8/0,8-6 Nm
Max. torque, wood/steel 27/45 Nm
Chuck range 1,5-13 mm
Weight with Li Ion 1,7 kg

The C18 actually seem to be a moderate bump in terms of torque compared to a C15. The runtime will be improved though. Still very happy with my T18.

 

[sae]

Interestingly, the specs of the new C18 are weaker than the T18.

Perhaps intentional?

If you don't have the clutch on, the potential to break wrists when the drill stops suddenly is much greater when holding it closer to the axis of rotation.

 

[Mahomo59]

I don't own any festool cordless kit, wish I bought carvex as cordless instead of 240. I'm going to cash in free battery on either T18 or C18 and then may be new carvex down the line. Unsure of handle!? Have primarily used T until my cxs, and I really love that drill...
I do built ins, kitchens etc, not a lot of heavy work but have makita 18v pretty much full kit for that.
I just don't want to miss out on free batt.

 

[ach_78]

If you are unsure about the handle you absolutely need to get your hand on both C and T models.

I liked the idea of the C, was just about to buy one, but once I tried it, it was a huge NO-NO for my hands. To each his own

 

[Phil Beckley]

Interestingly, the specs of the new C18 are weaker than the T18.

T18 :
Drilling diameter, wood/steel 45/16 mm
Torque adjustment 0,5-8/0,5-6 Nm
Max. torque, wood/steel 35/50 Nm
Weight with Li Ion 1,7 kg

C18 :
Drilling diameter, wood/steel 40/16 mm
Torque adjustment 0,8-8/0,8-6 Nm
Max. torque, wood/steel 27/45 Nm
Chuck range 1,5-13 mm
Weight with Li Ion 1,7 kg

The C18 actually seem to be a moderate bump in terms of torque compared to a C15. The runtime will be improved though. Still very happy with my T18.

Hi
I have emailed a colleague to clarify the diffrences and why etc.
rg
Phil

 

[jmbfestool]

After having used my corded festool C body type drill for a while now  I have come to a conclusion.

I HATE the C type and i really don't know why people like the C type.  The T shape is far superior and ergonomicly  better and  I just don't get it why people like the C.  My first thoughts were umm the C type makes the drill feel longer and out of balance but I'll give it time I might like it...... Nope the drill still feels longer than it should do and very front heavy all because you are gripping the drill right at the back.  Its common sense to me to to hold the drill closer to the driving end to balance the weight and less distance between your hand and bit so it doesn't feel like you are trying to aim te drill onto a screw.

Don't get me wrong I like the drill its powerfull and has high speed but I won't be buying a C type again and I hope festool make a T type corded version.

 

[sae]

I HATE the C type and i really don't know why people like the C type.  The T shape is far superior and ergonomicly  better and  I just don't get it why people like the C.  My first thoughts were umm the C type makes the drill feel longer and out of balance but I'll give it time I might like it.....

I reckon the style of holding a drill evolved mostly from the (over)use of Phillips headed screws. PH will cam out if you don't exert a significant normal force directly on the head of the screw, hence why almost all drywall screwguns are made to be palmed behind the motor.

Drywall guns also have a depth clutch to stop from breaking your wrists, so high torque and speed is no problem. For regular driving though, I prefer the T-handles that the market has mostly settled on as well.