Choosing a Kapex Stand and Extensions

yetihunter said:
The ug stand is a major back injury waiting to happen and the extension wings are wobbly, move about and are a relative pain to setup.  Look at Fastcap or newer options from other mfrs for extensions and something like the Bosch Rise Stand for
rolling about.  The MFT for the Kapex is fine, however.  The Kapex, itself, is awesome and still ahead of the pack as far as I’m concerned.

I am with you on this. The stand leaves a lot to be desired in terms of stability. The only thing it has going for it is the small footprint.
 
I’ve had mine set up on floors as flat as a billiard table, and also on grass, and very uneven over sites, with broken up hardcore on building sites. All good.

The only time I can think of any problems was, on a refurb job, all the floor boards had been taken up to replace rotten joist. There were sheets of overlapping ply put down for temporary access etc. We had to set up on the ply, and because the ply was very springy, it not doubt would have effected precision. We were building stud walls though, so not a big deal.

Because the extension are clamped to the base, there was probably movement, which wouldn’t have been effected, or at least not as much, had I been using an all in one saw stand with built in extensions. As then the stock would have stayed flat, and not effected by movement of the ply.

This is the only example of anything close to an issue, that I can think of.

I love the UG base/cart and the flexibility the extensions provide, especially cutting long lengths.

Each to their own I guess.  [wink]
 
Gregor said:
yetihunter said:
The ug stand is a major back injury waiting to happen
How do you reach that conclusion?

From using it.  It carts around good.  I like that it takes up such a small footprint vs anything else available.  It's when setting it up and breaking it down that one must follow procedure or find themselves twisting about while trying to catch a saw.  If anyone that owns the stand wants to say that it's not cumbersome (in the least), you must have three hands and 400 lb sneakers. I know that people love the extensions and have had a great experience with them.  I presume that they work great with with baseboard/toe molding and crown.  I was putting much wider and heavier wood on there, and that is why my experience differs.  I'm not afaid of weeble wobble.  I hand planed a monster roubo on top of the mft.  It was fine.  The Kapex stand/extensions I was experiencing twisting all the way through, it almost fell over a few times when I'd put lumber on it, it just wasn't stable enough once you get to a certain width or weight.   
 
yetihunter said:
It's when setting it up and breaking it down that one must follow procedure or find themselves twisting about while trying to catch a saw.  If anyone that owns the stand wants to say that it's not cumbersome (in the least), you must have three hands and 400 lb sneakers.   

The point to consider here is that the SCMS is by its nature an awkward and difficult to move piece of equipment not really designed for easy portability.  In my experience once you get the hang of it the Kapex on UG stand can be lowered into travel position and raised into use position solo without strain or risk of injury.  I'm a big guy (6' 5" and 205#) but I'm also in my late 60's and I don't find it particularly challenging.
 
yetihunter said:
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The Kapex stand/extensions I was experiencing twisting all the way through, it almost fell over a few times when I'd put lumber on it, it just wasn't stable enough once you get to a certain width or weight. 

I could envision the instability given the single point contact on the ground.
 
Any mitre saw stand will only take timber up to a certain width, before it can get unstable.
I have a few mitre saws and stands, including the Kapex and UG base etc, and they have all been fine cutting long lengths of skirting, trims, mouldings, right up to floor joists and trusses, that are thick and wide, and because of pressure treatment, heavy.

No problems with any of the saws, or bases/stands. Any of these set ups can have extra support applied if needed.
Setting up, get the folding base for a 10” or 12” Makita mitre saw off the van. Set the base up, go get that big saw off the van and carry it to the base. Lift the saw onto the base and lock it up.

Kapex and UG base: get it off the van, wheel it to the work area, unlock the tab, put one foot on the base, lift the saw just below the cable tidy, guide the support leg into the slots, lock the the tab. Fit the extensions if required.

Which set up, do you think will will cause, or aggravate any back issues?  [scratch chin]

I willingly fetch the Kapex off the van, the other saws, I let somebody else have the privilege  [wink]
 
I'm new to the Kapex game (better late than never) and fingers crossed i'll avoid the pre-REB issues for being a late comer.

I'm sure the OP has moved on since, but as it's being discussed i'll offer my early impressions as I bought the bundle with the UG cart/stand and extensions.

The UG stand is a means to an end. I can't think of a better way to transport and protect the Kapex with such minimal impact on the saws footprint and overall weight. It serves it's purpose well for me having to load/unload/set-up/repeat the majority of the time.

The extension wings are excellent, light enough, robust enough, quick to set up and handles the majority of tasks and material with no issues (none that i wouldn't come to expect from a saw and stand combo)
Optional single-side use is handy if space is tight.
The extension err...extensions, are great, very useful feature when dealing with longer lengths.
The measurements are bang on and have saved me huge amounts of time with the adjustable stop guides for multiple, same-length cuts. In fact, with a cutting list any cut over the saw table length is quicker (than measuring and marking) with the extension wings, stops and saw correctly set up.

The carry strap plastic end caps clipping into the UG stand for transportation is a definite bonus of the combination.

It has obvious limitations like anything "mobile" would but, is a great set up for predominantly mobile/site use and actually pretty bloody great for home/workshop use. So, no complaints or regrets from my side and no wobble-worries nor back pains because of it.

The saw is obviously excellent, as I'm sure we all agree.

I mutter price under my breath, but sing its praises in every other area. The last saw/stand combo was almost a 2 person job and still not easy to handle, plus having to constantly re-tighten and be adjusting the movable parts...jeeze, i don't miss it one bit.
 
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