Construction adhesive on trim... To use or not to use?

[jmbfestool]

I have tried loctite but did not like the results. It became to hard and brittle. I also stay away from construction adhesive on trim or stairs. Over time it will become hard and not move with the wood making for a broken bond. Plus it has a lot of build and can get in the way of a tight fit. In my opinion the absolute best stuff to use is vinyl adhesive caulk. It has an incredible bond, stays flexible, and can be painted/ joint fill like a latex caulk. Does not clean up like latex caulk so i dont use it that way, just an adhesive with benefits. Also in a pinch latex caulk provides a very strong bong.

I agree adhesive is crap I assume ur on about adhesive like pink grip.    Them types are no good for anything they hate damp they dont stick eveything especially non porous they wont hold. Like you said they go rock hard and so become brittle and a hard knock can release the bond.

I have removed many skirting boards which where stuck on with adhesive came of dead easy simple chisel behind and one knock of the hammer took the  entire lenth of skirting off and if the plaster was slightly dam non of it would of stayed on the wall only on the skirting.    
Sticks all and sticks like is hard 2 remove pulls the plaster of with it and foam is the same if you foam properly it will pull off large sections of plaster   which if proof that they have stuck well.

JMB

JMB speak to English ---- He didn't like it.  [tongue]

Yip!  basically crap stuff!  [tongue]

 

[Deansocial]

basiclly

neoprene adhesives like gripfill pinkgrip etc are naff
Polyurathane adhesives like sikaflex and the loctite stuff are very good and stay flexible
Then there is fixall, sticks like sh!t and stixall which are ms polymer adheshive which again very good and avail in clear which is good. My experience is they are not quite as flexible as polyurathane

 

[Eli]

I never got all chemist on it. From what you've said I'd guess that 80% of the construction adhesive in AU is polyurethane. I suppose due diligence would require I actually read what's in the can  [tongue]

 

[Ken Nagrod]

I never got all chemist on it. From what you've said I'd guess that 80% of the construction adhesive in AU is polyurethane. I suppose due diligence would require I actually read what's in the can [tongue]

You'll probably find it's the same as the ingredients in the can of Cheeze Wiz.  [big grin]

 

[Eli]

No Cheez Wiz in AU. They do have Silly String tho......

 

[harry_]

Also in a pinch latex caulk provides a very strong bong.

This thread is about sniffing glue, not pulling bong loads.  [big grin]

[thanks] for this! Nothing like a random laugh on a Sunday morning  [laughing]

 

[harry_]

No Cheez Wiz in AU. They do have Silly String tho......

How do you live without aerosol cheese?  [jawdrop]

 

[Deansocial]

No Cheez Wiz in AU. They do have Silly String tho......

How do you live without aerosol cheese?  [jawdrop]

think i'll add that to the American things i dont want to eat

aerosol cheese and tinned chinese

 

[Kevin Stricker]

I trimmed out a 100 year old Victorian last year where I had to use Con. adhesive on almost everything.  Trying to find studs was next to impossible, mostly because they were non-existant.  House had settled enough that you could not get a consistent grab into the lath either.  Used some for the crown backer as well.

Basement was even worse, walls 1 1/5" to 3" out of plum and the owner decided to just have the drywall glued to the brick walls.  Every jamb extension had to be tapered.  Luckily the basement was all paint grade as lot's of caulk was necessary.

 

[Electric Trim]

I trimmed out a 100 year old Victorian last year where I had to use Con. adhesive on almost everything.  Trying to find studs was next to impossible, mostly because they were non-existant.  House had settled enough that you could not get a consistent grab into the lath either.  Used some for the crown backer as well.

Basement was even worse, walls 1 1/5" to 3" out of plum and the owner decided to just have the drywall glued to the brick walls.  Every jamb extension had to be tapered.  Luckily the basement was all paint grade as lot's of caulk was necessary.

I be that job was nightmare.  I bet you and every other sub used more glue than nails, lol.

 

[tDot]

I'm over construction adhesives, I no longer use them for trim.  They are typically made of a polyurethane adhesive, and lots of filler.  I find that if there is too much movement the bond can break.  Most of them seem to expand slightly, which can afffect tight joints.  Worst of all is the cleanup... it just sucks. 

I now use polyurethane sealants (adhesives) they never fully harden, they bond to damn near anything, they dont have the fillers that the adhesives use.  Cleanup is marginally easier.

 

[Eli]

No Cheez Wiz in AU. They do have Silly String tho......

How do you live without aerosol cheese?  [jawdrop]

think i'll add that to the American things i dont want to eat

aerosol cheese and tinned chinese

Maaaaate. Don't get me started on the things they eat down here. Most of it came over with you lot!

 

[rmwarren]

No Cheez Wiz in AU. They do have Silly String tho......

How do you live without aerosol cheese?  [jawdrop]

think i'll add that to the American things i dont want to eat

aerosol cheese and tinned chinese

Maaaaate. Don't get me started on the things they eat down here. Most of it came over with you lot!

Vegemite?  [blink] [blink] [blink]

 

[Electric Trim]

I'm over construction adhesives, I no longer use them for trim.  They are typically made of a polyurethane adhesive, and lots of filler.  I find that if there is too much movement the bond can break.  Most of them seem to expand slightly, which can afffect tight joints.  Worst of all is the cleanup... it just sucks. 

I now use polyurethane sealants (adhesives) they never fully harden, they bond to damn near anything, they dont have the fillers that the adhesives use.  Cleanup is marginally easier.

What brand do you like?