My workshop is not massive and doesn't lend itself to most table saws as they are quite large, how good is the cs70? I'm worried its going to be flimsy against that of a cast iron, but I do like the fact I can move it much easier and take with me if I ever needed to.
Cs70 how good is it?
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The CS70 is not a replacement for a cast iron sawbench.
The CS70 is a good saw for small workshop use with the need to move it about or to site. It is a very substancial piece of kit and can produce cabinet shop grade of cutting.
Alex from The Nethlands has one and gives it the thumbs up.
The CS50 is also a great little saw but much more portable.
The thing is you could probably get a cast iron saw for the price of a new CS70.
The CS70 is a good saw for small workshop use with the need to move it about or to site. It is a very substancial piece of kit and can produce cabinet shop grade of cutting.
Alex from The Nethlands has one and gives it the thumbs up.
The CS50 is also a great little saw but much more portable.
The thing is you could probably get a cast iron saw for the price of a new CS70.
I got a good deal on an almost new CS70 a year ago. Half a year later I sold it because:
1. I liked it best with the sliding table, but I didn't have room for it with sliding table attached
2. I was disapointed with the sturdiness. Yes, it is a little flimsy, but thats because it's portable
3. I had problem dialing in the fence which I thought was a bit flimsy as well. I think this is doable though. Lots of nuts to dial.
I now live with the MFT and a great bandsaw. On rare occations I miss the "table saw". But when I miss it I don't miss the CS70. I miss something more sturdy.
If I decide to make room for a table saw in my small shop it would have to be something really small. I think I'd go with a Bosch GTS10. With the Bosch I would miss out on the pull-function (quite nice). But I would get two miter slots to run home built jigs/sled through.
The sliding table on the CS70 kind of makes up for the missing miter slots since you can set up your jigs on the sled. But then again, with the sled this machine takes up quite some space, not only width-vise, but also length-vise since the sled attachment protrudes quite a bit from the table.
The CS70 actually doesn't seem to be a very modern machine. I don't know when it was designed, but it feels like it was long ago.
My 2 cents.
//Michael
1. I liked it best with the sliding table, but I didn't have room for it with sliding table attached
2. I was disapointed with the sturdiness. Yes, it is a little flimsy, but thats because it's portable
3. I had problem dialing in the fence which I thought was a bit flimsy as well. I think this is doable though. Lots of nuts to dial.
I now live with the MFT and a great bandsaw. On rare occations I miss the "table saw". But when I miss it I don't miss the CS70. I miss something more sturdy.
If I decide to make room for a table saw in my small shop it would have to be something really small. I think I'd go with a Bosch GTS10. With the Bosch I would miss out on the pull-function (quite nice). But I would get two miter slots to run home built jigs/sled through.
The sliding table on the CS70 kind of makes up for the missing miter slots since you can set up your jigs on the sled. But then again, with the sled this machine takes up quite some space, not only width-vise, but also length-vise since the sled attachment protrudes quite a bit from the table.
The CS70 actually doesn't seem to be a very modern machine. I don't know when it was designed, but it feels like it was long ago.
My 2 cents.
//Michael
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You are not going to get the rock solid feel of a big table saw with anything other than a big table saw!
The CS70 is the high end of town when it comes to portable - probably the top of town in fact.
This is an area that's got me sitting on the fence too and the only thing that's got me wavering is which way I go with a bandsaw ... if I go big and need 100mm dust extraction, I may as well go big on a table saw as well. Space is a problem for me today and I may err on the side of getting a smaller band saw and grab a TS75 and stick it upside down in a CMS instead of going Precisio CS70. Then I'll reevaluate everything in a couple of years.
I'll make the decision when I'm presented with the immediate need, there's nothing pushing me decide right now. The boat I was building with my son has stalled due to my real work, so it'll be a while. That said, I did grab an MFT/3-VL and the panel for the CARVEX last week, so the journey towards CMS based stuff has started.
The CS70 is the high end of town when it comes to portable - probably the top of town in fact.
This is an area that's got me sitting on the fence too and the only thing that's got me wavering is which way I go with a bandsaw ... if I go big and need 100mm dust extraction, I may as well go big on a table saw as well. Space is a problem for me today and I may err on the side of getting a smaller band saw and grab a TS75 and stick it upside down in a CMS instead of going Precisio CS70. Then I'll reevaluate everything in a couple of years.
I'll make the decision when I'm presented with the immediate need, there's nothing pushing me decide right now. The boat I was building with my son has stalled due to my real work, so it'll be a while. That said, I did grab an MFT/3-VL and the panel for the CARVEX last week, so the journey towards CMS based stuff has started.
If you need to do a lot of angled cuts with changing angles I would not suggest a TS-saw in a CMS-module since the angle setting pretty much means that you need to turn the module around to adjust the angle and flip it back to check that it's correct - rince and repeat if wrong. Here the Precision, and any other table saw shines with proper angle adjustment dials on the side. As long as you either batch your angled cuts or stay with square cut and only adjust the height of the blade you're fine with the CMS-TS solution too. I would not attempt the angle madness project that HalfInchShy is working on with the CMS-setup [scared]
On a Finnish woodworking forum a fellow who uses a Mafell Erika for material science sample cutting did quite a bit of comparison before acquiring his Erika and the main finding was that if utmost accuracy and repeat ability of cut is your priority then the Mafell does better than a CS70, but only slightly and definitely no difference with woodworking kind of tolerances. We are talking about
On a Finnish woodworking forum a fellow who uses a Mafell Erika for material science sample cutting did quite a bit of comparison before acquiring his Erika and the main finding was that if utmost accuracy and repeat ability of cut is your priority then the Mafell does better than a CS70, but only slightly and definitely no difference with woodworking kind of tolerances. We are talking about
The angle/bewel adjustment knobs (front & back) and angle scales are under the table on the saw when its in the module - I don't go crawling under my CMS table to loosen them up to set the angle therefore I just flip the module around to see what I'm doing.
The height can be readily adjusted from the lift knob attachment that comes with the CMS-TSxx insert without reaching under the table.
The height can be readily adjusted from the lift knob attachment that comes with the CMS-TSxx insert without reaching under the table.
Ok I understand - what you mean is flip or turn over or even take out.
I always do it in situ, you do have to crawl a bit but even so I'm not sure I'd like to take it out all the time then again to get back to 90 degrees.
As you say though for lots of angled cuts best look for something else.
I always do it in situ, you do have to crawl a bit but even so I'm not sure I'd like to take it out all the time then again to get back to 90 degrees.
As you say though for lots of angled cuts best look for something else.
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