CT CYCLONE Pre-Separator: Coming to NA on October 1

...that accomodates a 50mm hose (assuming that's what's used on the CT's).
 
Cheese said:
Steven Owen said:
Here’s an idea for another video.  It would be interesting to see a quick video of the MIDI interfaced with the new Festool cyclone.  It would be interesting to see what accessories might be required to make the Festool Cyclone work with the Midi.

My guess would be a longer hose with a 90º end connection.

I think you would want an anit static hose about 5 feet long.  I would be worried about lost suction using a 10 foot hose back to the vacuum.
 
I'm a Festool dealer. If Festool said CT Cyclone only works with CT 26/36/48. I can't make a video showing you how to do something Festool is telling you not to do. And if you do it and do it wrong and you break the ground between your CT and the CT Cyclone you could kill your Mini or Midi. And I don't want to be any part of that either.
 
Don Ware said:
This is all new to me, I'm learning as I go. But I'm really enjoying making these video's !!!! Thank You for watching !!!!

I've also very much enjoyed watching the other Festool videos that you have on YouTube!  Lots of good information!
 
Don Ware said:
I'm a Festool dealer. If Festool said CT Cyclone only works with CT 26/36/48. I can't make a video showing you how to do something Festool is telling you not to do. And if you do it and do it wrong and you break the ground between your CT and the CT Cyclone you could kill your Mini or Midi. And I don't want to be any part of that either.

I can understand the position you have to take as a Festool dealer.  You have to tow the line.

All it takes to connect this to a Midi is a longer Festool Anti Static hose.  I don't see how that would compromise the anti static protection as long as the hose being used was not anit-static.  The only problem I could see there would be a loss of some suction power using a longer hose.
 
Im interested in this cyclone as do go through a lot of bags. I do have the long life bags in both my CTs but I find I have to empty the main one CT 26 about every week or so. To me If I can just lift off a box from the CT and not having to open up the halves it would save me a bit of time. i think if something will save me some steps or time its worth it.

So Im gonna tell the kiddos to get me one for Xmas.
 
Man... So now with the Plug-It accessory its a $415 setup. Wow... Makes me glad I bought the Oneida back with it was $199.
 
A simple test of how well it separates would be to fill the bucket up half way and weigh it. Vacuum the the contents of the bucket  and weigh the bucket in the separator. the difference will give a good idea. I know you have vast amounts of saw dust in the accumulators you guys run at Anderson.  I would expect it would do a very good job. Not trying to ruin your day Don. :)
 
ben_r_ said:
Man... So now with the Plug-It accessory its a $415 setup. Wow... Makes me glad I bought the Oneida back with it was $199.
A very reasonably priced triple tap solves the issue. Personally I see no advantage to buying that expensive extension cord, and I often have multiple tools plugged into my dust extractor. What I want is automatic blast gates.

tallgrass said:
A simple test of how well it separates would be to fill the bucket up half way and weigh it. Vacuum the the contents of the bucket  and weigh the bucket in the separator. the difference will give a good idea. I know you have vast amounts of saw dust in the accumulators you guys run at Anderson.  I would expect it would do a very good job. Not trying to ruin your day Don. :)
Could also just weigh the bag and the container, then go to work and weigh them again after. Difference in weight can be figured as a percentage.
 
True, however I do not know if Don has bags yet. The 2 container idea is simply vacuuming from and to  identical containers and measuring the difference. There are many ways to figure out efficiency. Though I expect that this set up works just fine. I am already on the hook for one.  :)
 
I was waiting for that when Don mentioned Planex earlier in the thread.  But it looks like he accidentally interchanged planex for kapex.  But, if he has some time on his hands and some of the walls in the new Festool display area need some touching up....  [big grin]
 
No I don't have a Demo Planex ……….. And I don't have any freshly mud covered walls LOL
And I don't have a scale that would weigh that little bit of saw dust I only have a postal scale.
And more saw dust fell out of the hose when I was putting every thing away than was in the bag.
And the cyclone it self had dust stuck on it. So if you had a scale that would weigh things down to a very small weight. You could weigh the bag before and after. But I all so have some bloodwood and some ebony and a littel of that saw dust weighs a lot, and I have some Balsa ( personal use, I like to make mock ups with non for sale ) and a whole bag full of that sawdust weighs almost nothing . So you saw the look on my face when I looked in the bag...... I could not beleave that there was almost no sawdust in the bag ....... My first tought was How can I film something thats not there. And yes some one said " Cut the bag open " You do known I pay for these bags out of my pocket, I bought the camera and do this because I find it fun. So if anyone wants to send me a brand new CT 26 bag I'll do the video again LOL !!!! ( Just Joking don't be mailing me CT 26 bags !!!!! ) I am very glad most people that watch my video's like them !!!!!! If you like them Thank You !!!! That's what keeps me going every day. If you would like to see something and I have a Demo tool I will try and make a video for you.
 
your work is much appreciated. you are just going to have to put up with your adoring fans. The life of a celebrity. :)
 
Its a bummer the Midi/Mini are never included in the big accessory upgrades like this, very annoying. Why Sell something to limit it out of the gate from new accessories, no bluetooth, etc. All it needs to work on the midi is a little longer hose. Why say it isn't compatible unless theres another reason they aren't saying?
 
grainhaus said:
Its a bummer the Midi/Mini are never included in the big accessory upgrades like this, very annoying. Why Sell something to limit it out of the gate from new accessories, no bluetooth, etc. All it needs to work on the midi is a little longer hose. Why say it isn't compatible unless theres another reason they aren't saying?

The hose the included might actually be long enough to reach the Midi hose port if you mount it backwards.  I don’t think it’s an anti-static issue.  It would be more of a loss of suction issue.  The MiDI motor is slightly less power than the CT26.
 
grainhaus said:
Its a bummer the Midi/Mini are never included in the big accessory upgrades like this, very annoying. Why Sell something to limit it out of the gate from new accessories, no bluetooth, etc. All it needs to work on the midi is a little longer hose. Why say it isn't compatible unless theres another reason they aren't saying?

My guess of why Festool does not want it used on the MINI & MIDI is a weight issue. The MINI & MIDI have a much smaller footprint than the full CT 26, 36 & 48. The MINI & MIDI would not be very stable with 50+ lbs of drywall dust setting on top of them.
 
JD2720 said:
grainhaus said:
Its a bummer the Midi/Mini are never included in the big accessory upgrades like this, very annoying. Why Sell something to limit it out of the gate from new accessories, no bluetooth, etc. All it needs to work on the midi is a little longer hose. Why say it isn't compatible unless theres another reason they aren't saying?

My guess of why Festool does not want it used on the MINI & MIDI is a weight issue. The MINI & MIDI have a much smaller footprint than the full CT 26, 36 & 48. The MINI & MIDI would not be very stable with 50+ lbs of drywall dust setting on top of them.

There is another possiblilty for the Midi:

The other possible option would be to sit the cyclone on a Festool roller cart and attach it behind the MIDI.  Using a Festool cart would be a cheaper option than buying a longer hose.
 
I’ll add to the ‘Why not” speculation, how about putting the CT CYCLONE on top of a SysRoll dolly powered by a CT SYS on top. Don’t have firsthand knowledge of either CTs but I agree with Steven that a Mini/Midi ought to be functional with the CYCLONE.
 
Michael Kellough said:
I’ll add to the ‘Why not” speculation, how about putting the CT CYCLONE on top of a SysRoll dolly powered by a CT SYS on top. Don’t have firsthand knowledge of either CTs but I agree with Steven that a Mini/Midi ought to be functional with the CYCLONE.

The CT Cyclone will function with any brand of vacuum. It just cannot be used on top of other vacuums the way it can be on top of the CT 26, 36 & 48.  I like the idea of using it with the SYS-Cart or the Sys-Roll & CT-Sys. 
 
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