ct-sys height

Gjarman12

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So I'm trying to figure out a workflow and combination for systainer heights, but am confused that the ct sys height doesn't match perfectly with any systainer combinations. It seems like it's close to a sys 1 and 2, but not exact. I'm so surprised that I even hesitated to post this.
 
It is the same as a Sys - I stacked with a Sys - II.  Bottom unit is the same as a Sys - II and the top unit is the same as a Sys - I.

Not going by measurements. I matched up the actual CT- Sys and Systainers.

Seth
 
Gjarman12 said:
Ok. Thanks. The measurements on the web didn't match, thanks for checking!

On the site .... the Sys-CT height is listed as 270. That is the connected height including the bottom set of "feet". The measurements given for the Sys - I and Sys _ II do not include the "feet".

Seth
 
Seth, think you could snap some pics???

When these first delivered I thought I'd get one. Went to the dealer and left empty handed because I couldn't get that CT to match any combo of systainer stack.  Never could get the heights to match close enough to make a flat surface of systainers side by side.

Went away thinking the issue was with the hose garage, it's not exactly SYS1 height - or that was my observation anyway. My plan was to ditch the garage and get a sys2 and modfy it for the top.  I use sys4 or combos equaling 4 to create a cube if you will.

Then I just got frustrated with festool for another great idea that just didn't quite get the last 10% correct. Kinda like the cord protector for the guide rails.

What's it been - like 15?years since the change over to the two bar connections and we still don't have cord and hose management that spans the entire width of the guide rail.

Will revisit the ct-sys if my intial height observations were incorrect.

p.s. Don't suggest I get a hose sleeve either.  It wasn't available til this year , and buying another part to fix a design problem with an original one is lunacy.
 
It does match a sys 1 and 2. I set up two towers of systainers with a gap between. Each tower was a height of a sys 1, 2,3 and 4 (I think). It worked perfect for installing laminate flooring with the gap for cuts.  It was great, but didn't take a picture, but it lined up perfectly. An MFT sys on the top if I need to clamp anything.
 
Here you go ......

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Seth
 

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One more related thought . Some of us swap lids to get the Systainer we want. I moved my MFT- Sys lid to a larger Systainer since I wanted to store bigger items in it as a kit.  You can play around with some of the Tanos stuff and get really creative out there.
 
Gjarman12 said:
Is there a combo that match the height of a midi?
I own a Midi Vac, so I will have to check that out with my Systainers unless you're referring to a Midi Systainer?  [huh]
 
Midi IIs and IIIs are the same height as the corresponding systainers...I use 8 of them for larger non-festools.
 
OK, I revisited this again and I figured out why I left empty handed .  You prob. only want to read this if have OCD or are just AR about systainer stacks.

Seth is correct, CT-SYS is a combo of a SYS 1 + a SYS 2.  The problem is,  in systainer world 1+1 does not equal 2 and 1+2 does not equal 3. [huh]

Seems a SYS 2 is a bit of an anomaly being 1.5x the height of a SYS 1, not 2x.  A sys1 stacked on a sys1 is the same height as a sys3  and a sys1 stacked on a sys2 is taller than a sys3 !  So for me the problem was/is that the CT-SYS does not play well with the heights of a SYS4 - which is my typical stack height for travel.  I was playing around and couldn't get a ct-sys and a stacked sys1 to equal the same height of my various sys4 combos.  And now I've had the epiphany - that darn sys2 is the step child, and hence the ct-sys.

If you want a ct-sys to be the same height as typical combos of systainers you likely carry to a jobsite then you are going to have to ditch the top sys1 of the vac and replace it with a modified sys2 so that the resulting combo is the same height as a sys4.  Keep in mind the new SYS-Combi II poses the same height issue.

Perhaps many of you realized this already, but I haven't carried anything to site in a SYS2, so it's the first time in 15-20 years that I've experienced this.  Bottom line to me seems that SYS 2s need to be carried in pairs. [unsure]  You may not even care about the various stack heights, but I like my stacks to be flat across the top creating a shelf if you will.

 
antss said:
Seth is correct, CT-SYS is a combo of a SYS 1 + a SYS 2.  The problem is,  in systainer world 1+1 does not equal 2 and 1+2 does not equal 3. [huh]

Seems a SYS 2 is a bit of an anomaly being 1.5x the height of a SYS 1, not 2x.
Yes, the naming scheme used for the SYS 1.5 (the internal codename of the SYS 2 I try to push into my head to no longer get confused) is very counter-intuitive.
 
Gregor said:
antss said:
Seth is correct, CT-SYS is a combo of a SYS 1 + a SYS 2.  The problem is,  in systainer world 1+1 does not equal 2 and 1+2 does not equal 3. [huh]

Seems a SYS 2 is a bit of an anomaly being 1.5x the height of a SYS 1, not 2x.
Yes, the naming scheme used for the SYS 1.5 (the internal codename of the SYS 2 I try to push into my head to no longer get confused) is very counter-intuitive.

In that case you need to push more into your head;

Sys 3 becomes Sys 2
Sys 4 becomes Sys 3
Sys 5 becomes Sys 4

[wink]

There are some tools that are now sold in Sys 2 with fancy lid that used to be sold in Sys 1, if I remember right.
 
Gregor said:
Coen said:
In that case you need to push more into your head;
That ship has already arrived and anchored ;)

Don't worry about this process.  As you get older, it is even more frustrating to finally work out that you have probably forgotten more than you can keep at recall.  Although, it is a refreshing process to have that light bulb moment when something triggers a previously dormant memory.  [eek]
 
Rather than learn that "new math" or keep a cheat sheet , or ........

I have just mentally made a note that SYS 2's must be stacked in pairs, and to NEVER buy a SYS Combi 2 .  [unsure]
 
Same thing as a SYS2 for me. 

The tops do not align with other combinations that do not have a SYS2 in them.  My stacks are primarily SYS 4 & 5 high.  Meaning if I had a stack of say a CT-SYS and a SYS1 it would be taller or shorter than the adjacent stack of 4 or 5  [sad]  Same with the SYS COmbi2.  They're always 1/2 a SYS proud or shy.

This prob. isn't a concern to the guys who never take their gear out of the shop, or aren't prone to OCD.  But in the backs of my truck, SUV, I like to have a flat surface to put stuff on top of .  The SYS2 and its cousins rain on my party.
 
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