I think this will fit the end of Festool hoses :
https://fein.com/en_us/accessories/...th-suction-control-order-no-3-13-45-078-01-0/
https://fein.com/en_us/accessories/...th-suction-control-order-no-3-13-45-078-01-0/
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antss said:
I tried connecting it straight to the 27mm anti-static Festool hose and it didn't fit. I did not try taking off the Festool end and putting the Fein on. I was at the woodworking show and asked the Fein guys if I could borrow it and take it to the Festool booth to try. They let me, but I wasn't planning on taking things apart.
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. Right, already been down this path. The hose ferrule system between Festool and Bosch/Fein is currently different . If the inner sleeves and ring system from Fein will fit the inner and outer diameter of the 27mm or stock CT-SYS hose, we will have a winner....NVA_WW said:
I decided I liked the smaller 22mm Bosch hose so much for my purposes that I left modifying a Festool hose alone for now.
Having taken a Bosch 35mm hose connector apart that is a very similar version of that 27mm FEIN connector, their plastic ring with the 2 spring locking tabs which engage those holes in the end of the fitting seem weaker than what Festool is currently doing.
I ordered the Fein to see if it will work. If not, simple return.
I have a number of Bosch/Fein 35mm hoses (my other extractors are Feins), so I could always use those with the Bosch suction adjuster, but first want to see definitively if I can use the Festool hose. Part of the reason for getting the CT-SYS was to keep things as tidy and portable as possible so using the larger Bosch hoses doesn't satisfy the OCD driving the purchase. [tongue]
I have a number of Bosch/Fein 35mm hoses (my other extractors are Feins), so I could always use those with the Bosch suction adjuster, but first want to see definitively if I can use the Festool hose. Part of the reason for getting the CT-SYS was to keep things as tidy and portable as possible so using the larger Bosch hoses doesn't satisfy the OCD driving the purchase. [tongue]
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. If you're getting the adjustable nozzle by itself, you'll need the guts of the mounting system with those sleeves and the plastic retaining ring that fits the Fein or Bosch nozzles.live4ever said:
I'll see if I still have pictures of the one I took apart to show some friends the differences between Festool and Fein/Bosch hose systems.
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I haven't run any other hose in the CT- Sys besides the stock one and my smaller 22mm AS Bosch hose. I think a much larger 35mm hose won't change certain sanding situations with high grit paper and smooth surface, where your sander is fighting moving around on the surface due to too high of a vacuum level AND very smooth surface, even at the lower CFM output of the CT-Sys.live4ever said:
BUT, I think the ferrule/sleeve kits from Fein aren't that expensive, I just haven't found one in a 27mm size, only 35mm and 22mm. Since you actually found their 27mm nozzle, you KNOW they make that sleeve kit for 27mm hose. What web-site did you find that, Fein USA or Fein International? So, dig a bit deeper and FIND THAT sleeve kit for you.....and for us..... [wink]
I'll post what the 35mm 'repair' kit costs as they're calling it to fix a hose end or nozzle retaining section once I look it up again.
Okay- no luck with a 27mm kit, but here is the 35mm kit--- 31345069010.
You can easily see it in the link that antss provided once you back into the accessories portion of the Catalog for Dust Extractors. Fein show both 27mm and 35mm dust nozzles with the valves, but only a hose repair kit for the 35mm hose.
https://fein.com/en_us/accessories/...5-069-01-0/?back=1&start=app&productId=316208
leakyroof said:
Here's what I ordered - pricey little bugger. Will take a week or so to get here so until then we'll see what I can dig up regarding the hose side of things. http://www.rockler.com/fein-tool-coupler-with-suction-control-for-turbo-i-and-turbo-ii
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The part number you posted does appear to be the 27mm hose repair kit according to this site as well as ToolNut and some other retailers:http://www.toolfetch.com/fein-31345069010-repl-hose-end-tool-1-1-16-in.html
Another $35 though. I'm not loving that price tag for the whole solution. Bah.
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Well that's weird since the description on Fein's web site only mentions the 35mm application and not the smaller 27mm hose fitting it as well..... [doh] [doh]. Almost comical at this point. Guess we'll wait for your report on that ordered hose nozzle.
OKAY, I looked into this some more and here's what I found.
I studied that Hose Repair kit , doesn't look like it would fit different diameter hoses, just a 35mm like as listed by FEIN on their web site. Not sure why other web sites are contradicting Fein's own info from their web site.
Since I DO own a new Turbo 1 Fein vac, I checked mine, and it came with the 27mm flexible rubber nozzle which fits your Festool and other tool dust ports. But the hose end of it is still only for the stock Fein 35mm hose. SO, since I could use the repair kit anyway, I'm ordering the repair kit, and we'll find out what it fits, or doesn't fit.... [thumbs up]
OKAY, I looked into this some more and here's what I found.
I studied that Hose Repair kit , doesn't look like it would fit different diameter hoses, just a 35mm like as listed by FEIN on their web site. Not sure why other web sites are contradicting Fein's own info from their web site.
Since I DO own a new Turbo 1 Fein vac, I checked mine, and it came with the 27mm flexible rubber nozzle which fits your Festool and other tool dust ports. But the hose end of it is still only for the stock Fein 35mm hose. SO, since I could use the repair kit anyway, I'm ordering the repair kit, and we'll find out what it fits, or doesn't fit.... [thumbs up]
Just to update the previous posts regarding adding suction control to end of the 27mm Festool hose...it works with a Fein adjustable suction tool coupler (31345078010, approx $35) and a Fein 1-1/16" hose repair kit (31345069010, also approx $35). The total cost of this solution is a ludicrous $70 and 2 minutes, but it does allow the addition of suction control to the OEM 27mm hose, so this all can still fit (barely) in the CT-SYS hose garage. The Fein coupler is a bit bigger than the Festool, so it makes squeezing into the hose garage a little tighter, but still doable. Fits all the tools just fein (haha hoho hehe).
First pic is of the pertinent two pieces of the hose repair kit threaded onto the Festool hose (after removal of the Festool end).
Second pic size comparison.
EDIT update: So as I was putting strain on the new hose end trying to jam it into the hose garage, I was able to pop off the repair kit part from the hose. It seems to thread fine onto the hose, but if you bend and tug at it it can come off. Doesn't seem like a huge problem with normal use but trying to shove it into the hose garage did loosen it, especially bending it at the end. I will experiment with the kit further to see if there's something I'm missing. Alternatively, some epoxy would make it more permanent.
First pic is of the pertinent two pieces of the hose repair kit threaded onto the Festool hose (after removal of the Festool end).
Second pic size comparison.
EDIT update: So as I was putting strain on the new hose end trying to jam it into the hose garage, I was able to pop off the repair kit part from the hose. It seems to thread fine onto the hose, but if you bend and tug at it it can come off. Doesn't seem like a huge problem with normal use but trying to shove it into the hose garage did loosen it, especially bending it at the end. I will experiment with the kit further to see if there's something I'm missing. Alternatively, some epoxy would make it more permanent.
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redbirdone said:
Indeed, that would be perfect.I’m a boatbuilder/shipwright and the majority of my mobile/onsite tools are cordless ,(Festool and Makita). Metabo make an 18v vacuum in a Systainer size box but it is difficult to get in NZ. As you said, it would be great if Festool made a 18/36v version.
(I realise this discussion is fairly old but I only just read it and thought the Metabo vacuum was worth mentioning)
https://www.metabo.com/com/en/tools...8-l-pc-602021000-cordless-vacuum-cleaner.htmlhttps://www.metabo.com/com/en/tools...8-l-pc-602021000-cordless-vacuum-cleaner.html
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Alanbach said:
Mine does not.
So if the CT SYS does not have variable suction control how does it do with Festool sanders? I know in my shop, with my CT 36, I have to turn the suction way down or sanding with my FT sanders is a miserable fight. Has anyone experienced difficulty from too much suction while sanding and using the CT SYS? Does Festool make a damper of sorts that you can put inline on the hose to reduce suction if needed?
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With the passing of time, does anybody have a new or improved way of limiting the suction with the CTL-Sys? I wonder if Festool have released an adjustable hose end in recent years? It looks like the new cordless version of the CTL-Sys has a new hose end to limit the suction.
I prefer the form factor more than the convenience of going cordless, the cordless run time isn't long enough for me so I'm leaning towards the CTL-Sys.
Thank you
I prefer the form factor more than the convenience of going cordless, the cordless run time isn't long enough for me so I'm leaning towards the CTL-Sys.
Thank you
