CTL33 240v - tranny240v to 110v - rotex 90 110v

[meindesign.co.uk]

hello lads.
yesterday i realized that my entire collection of power tools is not useable on UK building sites according to english health and safety rules.
i dont know when but at some point i will be working on such a job site.
now, will i from now on just start buying 110v tools or will i also sell some of my 240v once.
here is my question,
can i use, lets say a TS55 REBQ-PLUS-FS 110V with my CTL 33 240v, if i plug the transformer in the on board socket of the CTL and run the saw from the tranny?
i got such a good deal with the CTL33, it would be a shame to sell it again.
hope somebody has an opinion about that.
cheers,
Philipp.

 

[Deansocial]

Depends if you have work coming up on site. 240tools have more power than 110.

 

[AlexThePalex]

can i use, lets say a TS55 REBQ-PLUS-FS 110V with my CTL 33 240v, if i plug the transformer in the on board socket of the CTL and run the saw from the tranny?

It is not ideal, but possible, but you'll need a hefty and expensive tranny for that. Saw+vac gonna pull 2400 watts, that's quite something.

 

[Steve Hiscocks]

Hi Philipp, health and safety law doesent say that you cant use 240 on site, it just says you must use a circuit breaker. But all the bigger sites put a blanketban on 240 to cover themselves. I went threw the predicament you are in some time ago, even had a 240 ct mini set up with a 110 transformer on the top. This worked OK but you loose the auto switch on of the vac. The transformer on its own is enough to turn it on. I have know switched to all 110v got fed up of setting both up and not being able to use all kit on site. I use a 3.3 kva transformer and that werks OK even when using ct26 and kapex. Regards Steve

 

[jmbfestool]

can i use, lets say a TS55 REBQ-PLUS-FS 110V with my CTL 33 240v, if i plug the transformer in the on board socket of the CTL and run the saw from the tranny?

It is not ideal, but possible, but you'll need a hefty and expensive tranny for that. Saw+vac gonna pull 2400 watts, that's quite something.

I think you miss read what he was asking Alex.

Philip you can plug your tranny into your  CTL33 but your CTL33 will run on constant if you have it in auto mode the tranny draws enough power to turn the CTL33 on just like Steve Hiscocks said.

Just like Steve said you don't have to have 110 a circuit breaker is enough but big sites are nobs and make every one have 110.  

Im all 240v and I'm not Buying 110v you will be disappointed with the power of 110v tools they are not as powerfull as 240v.

My mate has 110v then used my tools some being the same but mine are 240v and his 110v he was gutted and now he's changing to 240v  

He's actually got a 110v TS55 he wants to change to a TS55 240v

My other mate is all 110v but didn't like the lack of power of the TS55 110v when he used my mates and then used mine!  But he didn't want to just have one tool 240v. So he read up on the Internet the mafel m55 had more power so he took the gamble and bought the mafel m55 110v  and yes it does have more power than the TS55 110v his gamble paid off.

Jmb

 

[Deansocial]

110 tools CAN have enough power but tool manufactures dont seem to make them that way.

 

[Alan m]

im in a similar dose to you. i started with 240 volt but got a good deal on a demo of2000 110 volt. then i needed my own transformer. then i bought a few site tools(demo hammer,wall chaser etc)i also have a cheap sander i use for sanding filler. i like having a minidrinder 110volt for doing tiling because it is smoother adn chips less than my 240 volt.

the law says you need a circuit breaker. if there isnt one , how do you put one in the circuit easily without rewiring the circuit. can you get a box with one in it and run your tools through that

 

[galwaydude18@gmail.com]

I just buy everything 110v so I can use them either in the workshop or site. No worrying about 240v on site then.

 

[jmbfestool]

im in a similar dose to you. i started with 240 volt but got a good deal on a demo of2000 110 volt. then i needed my own transformer. then i bought a few site tools(demo hammer,wall chaser etc)i also have a cheap sander i use for sanding filler. i like having a minidrinder 110volt for doing tiling because it is smoother adn chips less than my 240 volt.

the law says you need a circuit breaker. if there isnt one , how do you put one in the circuit easily without rewiring the circuit. can you get a box with one in it and run your tools through that

Yes a little box you plug in first then plug your tool into it or you can buy extension leads  240v which have a built in circuit breaker.

 

[jmbfestool]

I just buy everything 110v so I can use them either in the workshop or site. No worrying about 240v on site then.

No worrying if you just don't bother with site jobs that's what I do  [big grin]

Normal sites for regular builders are fine just these big companies who I rather not work for anyaway.

My mate had to wait 30min every morning before he could start work because either every tool needed to be counted or had to have a safety briefing or something daft like that.  Also he had to send every one of his power tools of even though they where 110v to get them tested and certificated before they where aloud to be used on site £10 per tool!  So my mate teamed up with another lad and just got one circular saw test and one SDS etc so to half the cost.

Now to mei ts site work which is hassle and worry. So I'll stick with 240v hassle free and stay away from a lot of hassle site work.

Jmb

 

[Deansocial]

Your mate got ripped off. Pat testing is about 80p an item.

 

[AlexThePalex]

can i use, lets say a TS55 REBQ-PLUS-FS 110V with my CTL 33 240v, if i plug the transformer in the on board socket of the CTL and run the saw from the tranny?

It is not ideal, but possible, but you'll need a hefty and expensive tranny for that. Saw+vac gonna pull 2400 watts, that's quite something.

I think you miss read what he was asking Alex.

Yup, I misread that. But I don't get it, if you need to have 110v on site, why could you use a 240v vac? Is the vac not counted as a tool on site? And if you're on site, is there even 240v available?

 

[jmbfestool]

can i use, lets say a TS55 REBQ-PLUS-FS 110V with my CTL 33 240v, if i plug the transformer in the on board socket of the CTL and run the saw from the tranny?

It is not ideal, but possible, but you'll need a hefty and expensive tranny for that. Saw+vac gonna pull 2400 watts, that's quite something.

I think you miss read what he was asking Alex.

Yup, I misread that. But I don't get it, if you need to have 110v on site, why could you use a 240v vac? Is the vac not counted as a tool on site? And if you're on site, is there even 240v available?

I don't think it's for site the vac. It's because he doesn't want to sell it because he said he got a very good deal on it so hes reluctant to sell it.  I assume he would buy another vac for site 110v. But still keep the 240v for home? Or jobs which don't require 110v? Maybe?

If it was me I cut my loss and sell the 240v if your converting everything to 110v no point have the hassle of a 240v vac.   I have used my mates TS 110v on my 240 vac and it's really annoying that you keep having to turn the vac on and off   Plus I often forgot to turn it on so dust was flying every where before I noticed and having it running constant does your head in.

Jmb

 

[meindesign.co.uk]

hey guys.
thanks for all your input!!

you are right Jmb. i was thinking of keeping the ctl 33 for home and get a mini or midi for site work.
the fact that, when i would use the tranny inbetween with the vac being switched on constantly, is putting me of to mixing 110s with 240s.

i think i will investigate a bit more in terms of rules and regulations on a job site.
there is still time for me as i am still a hobby woodworker but thinking of retraining to earn my living with it eventually.
the collection of tools is growing though so trying to think ahead. 
problem is, i have already about 10 power tools 240s. amongst them the ctl33 and a rotex 90.
so switching to 110 would be quite a hassle.

can anyone tell me if it matters if you are a one man band or a company being hired for a job interms of HSE regulations.
i guess it counts if there is contracts involved or not?

one thing i dont get.....
why is a ts55 240v stronger than a ts55 110v. both are 1200 watt. isnt the wattage the power of the tool?

best,
Philipp.

 

[Wooden Lungs]

HSE can be a pain in the butt. I used to get all my power tools on 240v but got stung like you on site having to use 110v. So now I only buy 110v power tools to cover myself on site.

Its a pain using transformers etc. I know there is a power difference but it hasnt affected me enough to worry about.

If you get your tools in 110v you can work on site or do domestic work no problem. If I was just in the workshop or on domestics which I would prefer to just have 240v cos it would be fine but I have done a lot of shop fits that you need 110v for.
Some sites have only 110v and you have to charge batteries in the site office but I have been on many that have both 240 and 110 as long as you use a breaker they seem happy. Was on a job only last week where HSE came in and went through everyone for pat testing etc.

110v is great if you say are cutting a roof and its raining lightly! 110v leads and trannies cope with water better.
You can get a small circuit breaker for a few quid at any hardware store.

I havent had a shock from a power tool mainly because they are insulated but I think the main idea HSE has is the reduction in voltage will save your life if you do get shocked. Also I always have piece of mind when workmates or apprentices use my tools so I know they wont be injured too badly!!!

 

[joiner1970]

I just buy everything 110v so I can use them either in the workshop or site. No worrying about 240v on site then.

Well said .

When I started out I bought one 240v tool an Elu planer then sussed that 110v was the way to go. I don't always work on site but at least if you have 110v tools you can work anywhere. I've never noticed any lack of power that people are talking about either maybe they're not using a high enough rated tranny minimum you should be using is 3kva and most large sites will have larger site boxes anyway.

 

[meindesign.co.uk]

Can somebody please explane who this guy is???
The one who appears on three different profile pictures including mine?????
Is FOG a place for hackers???

 

[peter halle]

Can somebody please explane who this guy is???
The one who appears on three different profile pictures including mine?????
Is FOG a place for hackers???

If you are talking about this lil guy:  [attachimg=#], he is not a profile picture.  He is just an indicator that you are online.  You can keep people from seeing if you are online by modifying your profile.  I do not see that you have a profile picture selected.

Peter

 

[meindesign.co.uk]

Hi Peter. It's not that little guy.
Now the man appears also under your name. Above your dog.
What's going on??

 

[jmbfestool]

Your being strange.

Explain ur self or stop being odd!

Atleast make a screen shot and show us what your talking about cus ur not making sense.

JMB