Cut-outs and casing.

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I wanted to get these out and installed on Friday but, things were not working out. I finally bent the driver in my Grex pinner, hitting a knot in some Red Oak. I guess I have emptied over 3 boxes pins with it, 30,000+. I swore I had an extra driver kit but, all I had was a spare O-ring kit.

Then I needed to use my shaper for the first time and I discovered that the registration pin for the spindle in the cartridge assembly had been sheared off.

I tore down the shaper, got the cartridge out and disassembled it enough to pull the dust cover and re-set what was left of the pin.

Back in business Friday afternoon. Then I got a crappy text message because I did not show up this weekend to install these, well, they weren't done. I guess people don't realize that when you are not at their house working, it does not mean that you are not working on crap for their house.

Oh well.

I am re-doing the trim in those wall cut outs and adding a single led puck light to each of them. All the door openings in the room and one drywall returned opening will be re-done along with new base.

I am going to try and install the cut-out trim with just a few nails, mostly some adhesive and clamping pressure.

Nothing fancy but, I am almost done tying this room together.  The railings are now painted black and the old growth oak beams for the inserts are almost done drying.

 
WarnerConstCo. said:
I wanted to get these out and installed on Friday but, things were not working out.

Then I got a crappy text message because I did not show up this weekend to install these, well, they weren't done. I guess people don't realize that when you are not at their house working, it does not mean that you are not working on crap for their house.

Oh well.

Just before I read this I was thinking I really need a backup for my 23 g pinner.  If the one (Senco) I have goes down  it probably would be a Friday and I would have to run around to find a one.

It seems if something is going to go wrong it happens on a Friday and if one thing goes wrong several other things go wrong as well.

Hope you got some rest this weekend.
At least you can be sure everything will still be right where you left it and your customer will be very happy when you have completed your installation.
Tim

Tim
 
I went back and read the posts from a couple of months ago about this job site, and I have to say that I would find it quite challenging to figure out what to do because there are so many different elements in the space that to me just don't fit together well.

In all fairness to your clients, if they have a new baby in the house, they're probably getting 4 hours of sleep a night peppered by randomly-space interruptions of irregular duration, and barely have a clue how they're going to survive if it keeps up like that, so grumpy text messages shouldn't be surprising.  As a bonus for you, once they return to sanity after nesting and getting to the point where the baby sleeps through the night, they will probably want more changes around the house.
 
CDM said:
I went back and read the posts from a couple of months ago about this job site, and I have to say that I would find it quite challenging to figure out what to do because there are so many different elements in the space that to me just don't fit together well.

In all fairness to your clients, if they have a new baby in the house, they're probably getting 4 hours of sleep a night peppered by randomly-space interruptions of irregular duration, and barely have a clue how they're going to survive if it keeps up like that, so grumpy text messages shouldn't be surprising.  As a bonus for you, once they return to sanity after nesting and getting to the point where the baby sleeps through the night, they will probably want more changes around the house.

Funny part is, we just had our 3rd child 4 days before they had their first.

I will be working on this place for the next 5 years at least.

There is an 1100 sq/ft room to be trimmed out, several built-in's and a custom bar in that room also.

They are wanting 2 bathrooms done over the winter and a complete kitchen gut and remodel next year.

He may decide to put all new windows in the place too, which I think there are 50+
 
Kevin Stricker said:
Yea, I am thinking those slab doors have got to go.

Darcy, it's time to invest in an HVLP setup.

I was thinking about it for my painted stuff but, I have a friend with a spray booth and am considering having him do my finishing for me.

I really don't have the space for a dedicated finishing area.
 
I hear ya there, although I think you have plenty of space for one.  I try to finish outside when I can, but we have had 2 weeks of cold/rainy weather.  My shop is a mess with me trying to shuffle around a 14' long built-in wall unit (in several pieces) in and out of my spray area.  It is nice to be able to crank out smaller stuff though and not have to worry about other peoples schedule.
 
Darcy,

I was sort of thinking along the same lines as CDM with the styles.  You did some really nice fabrication there, but it seems these people are mixing modern and arts & craft styles.  I'm no interior designer, but I hope it works.  You probably don't care what mix they want as long as they're paying, that's what's really important.  If they ask you to glue french fries to the walls and they pay for it... [thumbs up]
 
Ken Nagrod said:
Darcy,

I was sort of thinking along the same lines as CDM with the styles.  You did some really nice fabrication there, but it seems these people are mixing modern and arts & craft styles.  I'm no interior designer, but I hope it works.  You probably don't care what mix they want as long as they're paying, that's what's really important.  If they ask you to glue french fries to the walls and they pay for it... [thumbs up]

Sometimes he wants some silly stuff, like crown moulding in the utility room. [cool]

I think the doors are going to be the only thing that will just not look right.

He wants them replaced, about 56 solid doors plus 4 other custom units.  Talk about cart before the horse.

When the railing inserts are done, I think the living room will look pretty coheasive.

I just keeping taking the old out and putting new in it's place. [big grin]
 
Installed, today was a nightmare day due to the constant thunderstorms.

Homeowner ordered single led puck lights that will be recessed in each cut-out.

Tomorrow I fill holes and top coat.
 
Did Kreg visit your customers, Darcy?  That built-in in then third picture looks like his handiwork.......lol
 
Looks good Darcy.  I just don't like that pinkish/peachyish whatever color it actually is, doesn't look like it goes well with your oak.  At least on my screen.

Also looks like you know what you're doing.  Most other carpenters would have just cut that beam out of the way of the beautiful trimwork (1st picture).  [big grin]  I think that's a plumbers joke.
 
Ken Nagrod said:
Looks good Darcy.  I just don't like that pinkish/peachyish whatever color it actually is, doesn't look like it goes well with your oak.  At least on my screen.

Also looks like you know what you're doing.  Most other carpenters would have just cut that beam out of the way of the beautiful trimwork (1st picture).  [big grin]  I think that's a plumbers joke.

He has now started complaining about the doors.

He wants new doors. [cool]

I got that cut right the first time too.
 
So what are you going to do about the transition into the hallway?  The rest of the job looks pro, but combining the head casing over the hall looks like a HO special.

I guess if you don't address it he will eventually want the white wainscoting replaced as it looks super funky with the return to an untrimmed doorway.  I think if you boxed it out with some oak so the wainscoting terminated into it it would look a lot better.

I like the cutouts, but I think they would have looked better with some fluting in the legs.  Maybe it is just what I am used to but when I have a fillet I always use some fluting.  Over all the room is starting to take shape. 
 
Kevin Stricker said:
So what are you going to do about the transition into the hallway?  The rest of the job looks pro, but combining the head casing over the hall looks like a HO special.

I guess if you don't address it he will eventually want the white wainscoting replaced as it looks super funky with the return to an untrimmed doorway.  I think if you boxed it out with some oak so the wainscoting terminated into it it would look a lot better.

I like the cutouts, but I think they would have looked better with some fluting in the legs.  Maybe it is just what I am used to but when I have a fillet I always use some fluting.  Over all the room is starting to take shape. 

I just did that hallway last fall.

I gave them 3 different drawings dealing with that area.  This is what they picked and that is what I installed.

They like it.  He is now thinking about adding some thing there to fill in the painted drywall space, maybe a couple paneled sections of Oak.

They pay for drawings, I provide them, they pick out what they want, they give me money, I make their stuff, I install it and they give me more money.

 
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