CXS driver fit problems.

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Fishgun

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I just received my CXS today.  I use a variety of 1/4" drivers.

In the spindle my drivers fit very loosely and wobble terribly.
I am unable to even insert them at all in the Centrotec.

They are all standard size 1/4" drivers that I have used for many years.    Out of 17 of them only two would fit into the Centrotec.  They all fit in the spindle but they are very loose and unusable.

I know that I could use the chuck but this adds a lot of weight to the front of the drill.  I chose this drill because it is light to help with wrist problems.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
 
First off, sorry to hear about this little nuisance. I have the CXS and love it. When it comes to putting 1/4" bits into Festool drills it can get a little funky sometimes. If your trying to put a bit straight into the drill it will always be a little wobbly and even more so if your trying to use 2" bits. 1" bits seem to be fine in my CXS and T drill. As far as using 1/4" bits in Festool bit holders I usually use the Centrotec Bit Holder Bhs 65mm - 492648 (I have a few of them) which has a small chuck/collar that actually clamps onto 1/4" bits. This allows me to use my huge stockpile of 1" Milwaukee 1/4" bits while also using the Centrotec chuck which keeps the drill lightweight and low profile. Hope this helps.
 
The centrotec chuck is not designed to take standard 1/4" bits. You can make them fit by grinding/filing the corners off them and filing a groove in the right place so the bearing holds them in place, you will need a centrotec bit to copy. You are really best buying proper centrotec bits for the ones you use the most, it really is a good system if a little pricey.
 
Staniam said:
First off, sorry to hear about this little nuisance. I have the CXS and love it. When it comes to putting 1/4" bits into Festool drills it can get a little funky sometimes. If your trying to put a bit straight into the drill it will always be a little wobbly and even more so if your trying to use 2" bits. 1" bits seem to be fine in my CXS and T drill. As far as using 1/4" bits in Festool bit holders I usually use the Centrotec Bit Holder Bhs 65mm - 492648 (I have a few of them) which has a small chuck/collar that actually clamps onto 1/4" bits. This allows me to use my huge stockpile of 1" Milwaukee 1/4" bits while also using the Centrotec chuck which keeps the drill lightweight and low profile. Hope this helps.
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I use 4", 6" and 8" drivers so the wobble is really bad.  I will try the Bhs 65mm

Thanks for the fast advice.
 
Doug S said:
The centrotec chuck is not designed to take standard 1/4" bits. You can make them fit by grinding/filing the corners off them and filing a groove in the right place so the bearing holds them in place, you will need a centrotec bit to copy. You are really best buying proper centrotec bits for the ones you use the most, it really is a good system if a little pricey.
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Thanks for the quick reply

I had the bright idea a little while ago to shave the corners off.  I had tried it on an old driver and found that it worked pretty well.

As for the Centrotec I have to chalk it up to my ignorance.  I assumed that my 1/4" drivers would fit.  My mistake.  I did though expect them to fit into the spindle.

I will look for some true Centrotec drivers that will work for me.  The ones that I use are kind of specialized.

Thanks again for the good advice.
 
I got the Centrotec Installers Set with the Brad Point Imperial bits at the same time I got a CXS.  The set is a terrific collections of bits and drivers.  As Peter demonstrates in the video, it even has driver that holds legacy bits.  The Centrotec Installer Set is great addition to any Festool drill.  I like the set and the Centrotec connector so much I am looking at the more powerful Festool drivers and replacing my DeWalts altogether.
 
SoonerFan said:
I got the Centrotec Installers Set with the Brad Point Imperial bits at the same time I got a CXS.  The set is a terrific collections of bits and drivers.  As Peter demonstrates in the video, it even has driver that holds legacy bits.  The Centrotec Installer Set is great addition to any Festool drill.  I like the set and the Centrotec connector so much I am looking at the more powerful Festool drivers and replacing my DeWalts altogether.
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The set looks great but is beyond what I need.  More than anything I use 4", 6" and 8" nutsetters.  They are one piece units so there is no wobble like you would get with a socket and adapter.  If I stay with the CXS I will miss these terribly.

I install interior shutters and blinds.  I drive #8 hex head screws all day.  On shutters the access hole is very small and will not allow use of a socket.  I also need a strong magnet to hold the screw which I don't get with a socket.  I haven't yet found Centrotec nutsetters, especially long ones.  I may find a grinder and alter the ones that I have.
 
Fishgun said:
The set looks great but is beyond what I need.  More than anything I use 4", 6" and 8" nutsetters.  They are one piece units so there is no wobble like you would get with a socket and adapter.  If I stay with the CXS I will miss these terribly.

I install interior shutters and blinds.  I drive #8 hex head screws all day.  On shutters the access hole is very small and will not allow use of a socket.  I also need a strong magnet to hold the screw which I don't get with a socket.  I haven't yet found Centrotec nutsetters, especially long ones.  I may find a grinder and alter the ones that I have.
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I watched a video on YouTube (I think it was Halfinchshy) that showed how to take a legacy bit and file it down to work in a Centrotec with a drill press and file.  Looked like a cool solution.
 
SoonerFan said:
Fishgun said:
The set looks great but is beyond what I need.  More than anything I use 4", 6" and 8" nutsetters.  They are one piece units so there is no wobble like you would get with a socket and adapter.  If I stay with the CXS I will miss these terribly.

I install interior shutters and blinds.  I drive #8 hex head screws all day.  On shutters the access hole is very small and will not allow use of a socket.  I also need a strong magnet to hold the screw which I don't get with a socket.  I haven't yet found Centrotec nutsetters, especially long ones.  I may find a grinder and alter the ones that I have.
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I watched a video on YouTube (I think it was Halfinchshy) that showed how to take a legacy bit and file it down to work in a Centrotec with a drill press and file.  Looked like a cool solution.
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This might be the way that I have to go.

Thanks
 
Hi Fishgun.  Wonder if worth getting a few of the magnets that fit inside the 492540 bit extension.  Then epoxy together enough to get the depth you need to hold the hex heads securely?? 
Richard
 
fuzzy logic said:
Hi Fishgun.  Wonder if worth getting a few of the magnets that fit inside the 492540 bit extension.  Then epoxy together enough to get the depth you need to hold the hex heads securely?? 
Richard
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That's a good idea.  Any idea where to source them?  If I can't find any I have a lot of magnets here that I could cut down.

Thanks
 
Or  [doh] just cut back the extension end to a suitable length.  Don't know how much overall length you need of course.
Richard
 
fuzzy logic said:
Or  [doh] just cut back the extension end to a suitable length.  Don't know how much overall length you need of course.
Richard
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This is the way that I would like to go.  I just don't have the machine that I need to cut it down properly.
 
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