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williaty

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OK, I have a CT vac and now I have three non-Festool devices, each having a dust port with a 63.1mm (2.48") OD and 58.3mm (2.30) ID. I'd like to connect these to my CT vac via the D26 anti-static hose. Is there an off-the-shelf adapter to facilitate this?
 
Just measured mine.  On your D27 hose, there's the tool end and the end that plugs into the D50 coming off the front of the vac (or it is plugged in directly to the front).  That D50 has an outer diameter of 57.6mm on mine and the end.  If I widen my calipers to your 58.3 and slide back, the taper snugs it.

To verify, take the D50 end of your D27 hose and plug it into those tools.  If that works, order that end.  You can easily unscrew the D27 tool end and screw on the D27->D50 end to the tip... just reach inside with your finger to hold the rotating collar as you turn.  Very fast.
 
Well, the D27 hose was under a pile of Festool, so I used the D36 hose that was on top. Yes, the D50 end fits into the ports on all 3 machines. The depth of fit varies a very large amount for how closely they all measured!

OK, given the size of chips made by all 3, I'd like to use the D36 hose instead of the D27 hose. Is part 452894 the correct hose end to make myself a D36 hose with two D50 ends on it?
 
williaty said:
Well, the D27 hose was under a pile of Festool, so I used the D36 hose that was on top. Yes, the D50 end fits into the ports on all 3 machines. The depth of fit varies a very large amount for how closely they all measured!

OK, given the size of chips made by all 3, I'd like to use the D36 hose instead of the D27 hose. Is part 452894 the correct hose end to make myself a D36 hose with two D50 ends on it?

Yes, it is.

Tom
 
Yeah, I kind of wondered about just ordering the D50x2.5m hose. Have to see how much length I really need. By the time I buy a D36 hose to dedicate to this and then add a D50 connector to it, I'm basically at the cost of just buying a D50x4m hose. Then, if I understand it right, I could plug the D50x4m hose directly into the big ports on these three machines or use it in conjunction with 493047 to plug the D50 hose into the vac, then put the 493047 on the end, and finally plug the vac-side fitting of the D36 or D27 hoses into the 493047 in order to come up with a long extension hose. Honestly not sure why I'd ever need to do that though! :lol:

Do any of you know what diameter the ports on 452898 are?
 
The Y connector presents the same port that is on the front of the vac, but twice.  You could plug your D27 into one side and some other hose to the other.  All the hoses (D27, D36, and D50) have the same connector on one end intended to plug into the vac.  When you mentioned the D36, I assumed you had one.  If you are buying a new hose for this purpose, buy the Anaconda I linked to (4m long).  Like all the hoses, it has a connector to fit into the front of the vac.  The other end is a D50 connector and will fit the tools you mentioned.  If you got a D36 hose then swapped out the D36 connector for some D50 adapter, you likely won't save much (as you mentioned) and you won't get the same chip removal, assuming your tools are chip producers.

Another benefit of getting a D50 hose, you can pick up a connector (#493047) that would let you plug the D50 into the vac, put this connector on the end, then plug any other hose into the end (D27, D36 or D50).  So if you get a long D50 hose, you might consider getting that connector (note: if you have a boom arm, you have this connector between the short run of D50 that brings the front vac port to the back handle).
 
I do have a D36 already. I just don't want to constantly change ends on it, so I'd end up buying a second one to dedicate to the purpose of this bigger tools. If I'm going to buy a hose to dedicate to the big tools, buying a D50 makes more sense.
 
williaty said:
I do have a D36 already. I just don't want to constantly change ends on it, so I'd end up buying a second one to dedicate to the purpose of this bigger tools. If I'm going to buy a hose to dedicate to the big tools, buying a D50 makes more sense.

Yes, one of the D50 hoses would likely be your best bet.  I would either get the shortest length that would reach or plan on a little longer one that could be cut in two, along with two additional end fittings, so I could place a separator/cyclone inline (those were big chip producers, weren't they?).  In addition to the 2.5m and 4m D50 hoses that Festool offers, you can also get the 1.5m D50 AS hose as a spare part from the Boom Arm accessory. 
 
Hmm, I actually like the idea of getting the 4m D50 and slicing it up to make a pair of short hoses to make a Y and then a single longer hose to run to the vac and/or cyclone.
 
I keep the 36mm hose hooked up permemantly to my CT 30 and have several short lengths of 27mm hoses that I leave attached to tools.  That way, i do not have to fiddle around with attaching the same hose to different tools.  the tool end on the 36mm hose eventually got stretched out enough that the smaller hoses started falling out. 

I wound astrip of tape inside the larger end and that worked for a little while until the tape lost adhesion and got sucked thru into the cyclone.  I then decided it is better to wind the tape to the outside of the smaller tools hose.  That way, i see what is happening to the tape and replace as I see the need. 

i have used both double sided tape and duct tape.  I think the duct tape is better, altho I have only just started using that.  There was no reason for chosing the double sided tape over the duct tape originally.  It was just that I have plenty of double sided tape in my WW shop and I keep the duct tape out in the barn for holding (landscaping) equipment together.  I was at end of a roll of 1" D. Tape so brought in to give it a try.  The double sided tape I  used with cover layer left on and then with sticky sides exposed to both surfaces.  The second system worked better as i did not have to deal with roll back of the protective covering tape.  But, as mentioned, i think the duct tape will continue to work better.

The only tool I do not use the short section of smaller hose with is my HL 850.  That needs the 36mm hose all the way.  I have not had to go with 50mm hose. That tool seemed clumsey with the larger hose attached.  Recently, I picked up the table mount unit and I now use the 850 for nearly every project.  The hose stays out of the way and i can really hog off material.
Tinker
 
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