DCR PDC drill with sourber jig

[ifit]

Has anyone tried the dcr /pdc drill with a sourber lock jig?
They need a drill over 2000rpm and most cordless drills are below this, have the new festool drills got enough grunt in speed 3/4 to do it?

 

[AlexThePalex]

ifit, the DRC/PDC drills are some of the fastest on the market, they have a maximum rpm of 3800. Exceptionally high for a cordless drill, and a delight to work at that speed.

 

[Mucker]

I know it's not as convenient but I still use a big corded drill with my sourber.  I just find it quicker and it gives a better cut.
I don't think it's about the speed of the drill that counts but the torque that count. So while cordless drills can deliver great results i find it easier to not have to change batteries half way through the job.

Anyway just my 2pence worth.

 

[Kev]

Of any of the cordless drills out there, the PDC and the DRC are the likely ones to perform successfully with a mortising tool.

Speed v's torque is going to be a factor of how aggressive you are with the bit.

I've only seen the Souber Jig in action on youtube - do you like it?

 

[ifit]

Thanks for the replies

It sounds like it may do the trick

I have tried the jig with a makita cordless in the past but the speed was too slow and it was trying to tear through the wood rather than cut it

Kev - I have had the jig about 5 years and it generally does a lovely job but I have just done a job with 23 sash locks in walnut and it was a bit sloppy, not bad but not as good as it was
I tried tightening the cam nuts but it was too hard to move on the rails
I think the bush may be starting to wear although walnut does not cut as clean as some woods
I would definitely recommend it if you do a lot of mortice locks for speed and accuracy

 

[Deansocial]

Id say for single locks it would be fine but nothing more than that. You deffo need the speed over torque.

 

[ifit]

Id say for single locks it would be fine but nothing more than that. You deffo need the speed over torque.

Isnt that what the dcr has is speed over torque in speed 4

 

[Deansocial]

Yes thats right. But still more than 1 lock wont do it much good.

 

[ifit]

I have purchased a DRC and given it a try with my sourber jig on a piece of softwood and it seems absolutely fine
didnt seem to strain the drill or get it warm at all so fingers crossed it will work out well and mean 1 less tool in the van

The added benefit is that you can unclip the chuck to move the jig rather than having to undo the chuck every time

 

[jmbfestool]

Speed is more important than torque. 

The way you use the Souber jig is by taking layers of the face bit by bit as you move up and down which requires little torque.

The bits on the Souber are designed like a router bit which require high speed because they don't have a very aggressive cutting action.  This is to avoid any grabbing by the bit as you move up and down which could cause damage or cause the bit to try and stray.

So the faster you move up and down and the faster the bit spins the better.  Then slightly plunging deeper and deeper as you move up and down and not trying to force it as deep as possible.

 

[Kev]

Speed is more important than torque. 

The way you use the Souber jig is by taking layers of the face bit by bit as you move up and down which requires little torque.

The bits on the Souber are designed like a router bit which require high speed because they don't have a very aggressive cutting action.  This is to avoid any grabbing by the bit as you move up and down which could cause damage or cause the bit to try and stray.

So the faster you move up and down and the faster the bit spins the better.  Then slightly plunging deeper and deeper as you move up and down and not trying to force it as deep as possible.[/b]

That sounds like you're giving relationship advice [scared] [eek] [huh]

 

[Davej]

Speed is more important than torque. 

The way you use the Souber jig is by taking layers of the face bit by bit as you move up and down which requires little torque.

The bits on the Souber are designed like a router bit which require high speed because they don't have a very aggressive cutting action.  This is to avoid any grabbing by the bit as you move up and down which could cause damage or cause the bit to try and stray.

So the faster you move up and down and the faster the bit spins the better.  Then slightly plunging deeper and deeper as you move up and down and not trying to force it as deep as possible.[/b]

That sounds like you're giving relationship advice [scared] [eek] [huh]

Faster, deeper!  Gotta agree with Kev  [big grin]. The last sentence sounds like it may be battery related but not of the power tool variety  [eek]

 

[jmbfestool]

Haahaaa I just re-read what I put.  LoL

Yeah it does sound very much like that

 

[Deansocial]

Used mine for eleven locks today. Worked fine all in a single charge.

 

[jmbfestool]

Used mine for eleven locks today. Worked fine all in a single charge.

Oak or softwood?

 

[ifit]

I have used mine for large qty's (10-20)of doors with hardwood lippings and it works fine

 

[jools]

Same here. Used it on 12 solid doors on the one battery

 

[rljatl]

Are you guys using the DCR or PDC?

 

[jools]

I use the PDC. In fourth gear it spins at 3800rpm which is fast enough for the souber jig and as JMB says it requires little torque to operate just high speed. 

 

[Deansocial]

Pdc. Oak lipping the softwood frame and chipboard core