DF500 vs DDF40 for 30 Eurostyle cabinets...

[Coen]

The reason major cabinet manufacturers use dowels.

This machine drills, glues and inserts the dowels fully automatically.

Yes, and big companies in the electrical sector have whole departments that can cut various types of wires to 1/10mm size at 5 km/h and machines that in one go can strip and crimp on a ferrule. I still don't see how that applies to me working out of backpack with a cable shear, tape measure and bag of ferrules and hand crimper  [huh]

I mean to say; different volume, different budget.

 

[peter halle]

Yea, I did mention the oversize bits in one of my other posts but a lot of folks just skim right over that.  The issues with the oversize bits are several incase you dont own any.
1. They are pricy
2. they dont provide much wiggle room I need to tap in 8mm dowels into 8mm holes but its humid where I am so that could be partly to blame.  The oversize bits dont do a whole lot the dowels are still snug but go in/out with fingers.  It still doesnt do much for wiggle room.  I also only tried the over sized bits on one half of the joint since the face drilling is done on CNC Perhaps if both sides were drilled with oversized bit it would make more of a difference.
3. The oversize bits increase the entire hole size which could make the one edge misalign as well.  The double plunge method maintains a consistent distance between the fence reference edge and dowel.

I had the LR32 prior to the DDF and got really good and fast results with it so I never bothered with the DDF but can see how having just one machine for all would be a big benefit for some.

As far as renting Festools here in the USA thats a no go.  I have never seen anyone renting Festool.

Actually there was a dealer here based around Atlanta who did rent Festool's.  Also had a rent to purchase type deal.  Recently it was posted here that his products were being offered at a discount, so I assume that to mean he will no longer be a dealer.

Peter

 

[afish]

I wouldnt drive to Atlanta even if he was giving away Festools for free.  The last time I drove through it took almost 3 hours, never again.

 

[ChuckM]

Renting is for commerce as loaning for family and friends. I'll be willing to lend my PRO5 LTD sander (because I have two of it), but not my DF or Kapex.

I've seen people using those machines on the web without proper care, such as letting the Domino body spring back after a cut rather than releasing it gradually. Or letting the saw head spring back up. Many miter saw users are seen to be engaging in kickback prone operations, and I have no control of how my saw is used once it leaves my shop.

More than a few times, I cut workpieces for my neighbors on the SawStop, but again, I prefer them (including  woodworkers) not to do the cuts themselves because it has taken me efforts to tune up the saw to cut with such precision.

 

[Michael Kellough]

I wouldnt drive to Atlanta even if he was giving away Festools for free.  The last time I drove through it took almost 3 hours, never again.

Even farther OFF TOPIC…

Back in my college days my friend’s parents gave her a new Mazda RX-3 and we took it from Tallahassee to Asheville and I got to drive. We hit a patch of the 285 beltway around Atlanta that had just been widened but the lanes stripes had not been painted so it was the equivalent of a six lane free for all. In that little car powered by the rotary engine it took no time to get around Atlanta.