Does a straight connector exist for the 27/32 hose that comes with the CT Mini?

[bwehman]

I'd like to replace the elbow connector that comes with the tapered CT Mini hose but can't seem to find the straight connector needed for that 32mm end. Does one even exist for the NA market?

 

[RKA]

Not that I can find.  I had thought the CT26 used the tapered hose as well, but it appears they only offered that with the Mini/Midi, both of which come with the 90 degree elbow at the DE.  Looks like that's all they have for 32mm hose end connectors.

 

[Scorpion]

There has to be.  I don't know what the part number is but this is the one that came with one of my vacs and occasionally i get the hoses mixed up.  Think it came with my CT26.

My CTL SYS and MIDI both have the elbow.

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[Scorpion]

Think it's this one - 452892

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[bwehman]

No, the hose is tapered. It's not 27mm at the other end, it's 32mm.

 

[Scorpion]

Sorry, my mistake. Guess I didn't realize those hoses were tapered from 32 to 27.  Then it must be this one your looking for.  452894

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[antss]

Nope, that's not it either.  That one fits 36mm, not 32mm.

I am fairly certain that a straight starting collar is not produced for that size hose.  The tapered hose is unique to the mini/midi line. 

 

[ben_r_]

Call Festool. Theyll know if such a piece exists and theyll let you order it from them right then and there.

 

[Scorpion]

Nope, that's not it either.  That one fits 36mm, not 32mm.

I am fairly certain that a straight starting collar is not produced for that size hose.  The tapered hose is unique to the mini/midi line.

Well now aren't I the king of mis-information. 

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[synapticamps]

I believe the part you are looking for is: 204919

I just bought a newer model CT MIDI I and the Festool CT-VA Cyclone. The new MIDI-1 requires a straight-ended hose for the dust extractor hookup due to the way its recessed in the hose garage. I couldn't hook it up to the Cyclone because the short hose length Festool includes has a right angled connector on both ends. The antistatic hose included with the Cyclone is  32mm. Festool provided me part number 204919 for the 32mm straight connector and I found it for sale on Amazon. I'll let you know how it works out once I receive it.

I would speculate that Festool ultimately came to acknowledge that the right angled connectors used on the original MINI and MIDI extractors were a weak point in the design causing clogs and reduced airflow. The new redesign of these models require straight hose connectors at the dust extractor. In switching to the new design Festool was likely left with a backstock of right angled 32mm connectors. The CT-VA Cyclone has given them a convenient way to put that old stock to good use. The right angle is much less likely to cause issues here since the large debris that would be prone to cause clogging will already be separated out of the air stream.

 

[hemlock]

Try 500672

 

[jonnyrocket]

I ordered part # 204919 off of amazon. I can confirm this is the correct part for the 32mm end. Thanks [member=72190]synapticamps[/member] for the number. I had been looking for one of these for a while now but never wanted one enough to call festool.

 

[synapticamps]

Sorry - I never followed up after receiving that new rotating connector. Shown below is Festool part number 204919 swapped onto one end of the short hose Festool includes with their CT-VA Cyclone. This worked perfectly to give me a straight end that allows me to use the cyclone with the newer style CT Mini / Midi. It should work on any hose that has a 32mm end. The only thing I'm uncertain about is how you would replace the end on the newer style braided sheathed hoses. These seem to be glued on.

This connector has an RFID chip. This doesn't seem to serve any purpose with the vacuums currently being sold on the US market. Best I can tell, these allow the vacuum to automatically set the suction level based on the hose diameter. It doesn't hurt to have it.

 

[synapticamps]

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[jonnyrocket]

The only thing I'm uncertain about is how you would replace the end on the newer style braided sheathed hoses. These seem to be glued on.

I was able to leave the screw-on piece and the connector clip on the hose from the original 90deg connector and just swap the 90deg end for the new straight one.  I will point out that the thread-on ring for the new straight connector is longer than the one that is on the hose for the 90deg connector, but I can't observe any negative function with using the existing one for the new straight connector. 

The other benefits is that the new straight end also allows this to connect to another hose without the needed 50mm coupler. So the midi/mini hose with the straight connector can join to other existing hoses when more length is needed. This wasn't possible with braided hose with the 90deg connector.

 

[stueym]

Looking to achieve the same mating of the 2019 CT Midi and the CT-VA Cyclone (arriving shortly).

[member=72190]synapticamps[/member] So I ordered P/N 204919 and it arrived today, and after reading this thread I think I am okay, but why does [member=17460]hemlock[/member] (and others) referencing  PN 500672.  The descriptions look the same, did they introduce a new (improved) version of the same part?
[unsure]

 

[AlexThePalex]

The descriptions look the same, did they introduce a new (improved) version of the same part?

Yes, 204919, the current model, has an RFID chip built in so the vac can automatically sense the size of the hose. Only important if you have a European M model vac and not relevant in the USA.

 

[08G8V8]

The descriptions look the same, did they introduce a new (improved) version of the same part?

Yes, 204919, the current model, has an RFID chip built in so the vac can automatically sense the size of the hose. Only important if you have a European M model vac and not relevant in the USA.

I recently bought a 5m long hose to go with my MIDI, 204922. It has a sticker applied on the vac side and the stock 3.5m hose did not. Is this the RFID chip?

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[FestitaMakool]

Yes, the tape hides and holds the RFID chip.
As Alex says, it’s relevant only to newer vacs and in M class (and above?)
My new CT MIDI L class came with the chip on the hose, but it is only the M class version that has the transmitter/receiver and registers the hose ID. On the M class Mini/Midi you’ll see an additional light bar with corresponding hose diameters that lights up according to which hose is connected to the vac - if the hose has the chips that is.
Same filtration on L & M - M beeps when airflow is restricted in relation to the hose connected to warn about possible loss in dust collection ability.

 

[08G8V8]

Yes, the tape hides and holds the RFID chip.
As Alex says, it’s relevant only to newer vacs and in M class (and above?)
My new CT MIDI L class came with the chip on the hose, but it is only the M class version that has the transmitter/receiver and registers the hose ID. On the M class Mini/Midi you’ll see an additional light bar with corresponding hose diameters that lights up according to which hose is connected to the vac - if the hose has the chips that is.
Same filtration on L & M - M beeps when airflow is restricted in relation to the hose connected to warn about possible loss in dust collection ability.

Thanks for the info. I suspected that is what it was.

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