Domino DF500 Foam Insert

[Tyler Ernsberger]

I recently bought a DF500 and the insert in the Systainer was cracked and the paper lid organizer is beat up.  I called Festool and they are going to send me out a new insert.  So after thinking about, and seeing the domino xl and other festool products pack in epp foam, I called a epp foam company and got some prices on getting a foam insert for the df500 and later for more Festool Products. 

So heres my idea;
Epp foam insert for the df500.  It will have the spots for the normal accessories, a spot for the domiplate and a spot for the df500 accessory bit set.  Looking at trying to get it for around $15 plus shipping.  Just checking to see if there is any interest in this upgrade and get a number of people interested before I spend the money on tooling a prototype.  If this works out I would like to do the same for the ts55req and Festool Drills.  Let me know Thanks.

 

[GPowers]

would this be like a kaizen foam insert or a laser cut multi color insert?

 

[Tyler Ernsberger]

Molded foam.

 

[Carl Prentiss]

For near that price, I'd be interested in replacing the inserts on all my tools that came with the plastic ones.

 

[Tyler Ernsberger]

The issue is tooling cost.  Its only worth while to have them make a batch.  There hasnt been a lot of interest though. 

 

[Scorpion]

I'm interested.  I think my hesitation is that I can't see a prototype to know if I'd really want one or not.  Not to say they won't be nice but seeing helps sell always.  I rarely buy something that's conceptual because I'm particular.

 

[Tyler Ernsberger]

I will meet up with the manufacturer and see about a prototype.    I agree pictures would be will help interest. 

 

[erock]

OK....I'll ask...... WHY?

What's wrong with the plastic insert that comes with the tool?

I'm not trying to be a D-head.  I'm just trying to understand.   

How are you moving the tool around?  I think the inserts that come with the tools are fine.    Waisted space?  On some.  But I wouldn't pay for an additional insert.

Eric

 

[Tyler Ernsberger]

Festool in my opinion dropped the ball when it comes to inserts.  I use my tools for professional use and carry them on and off of job sites.  I bought a new df500 and the insert was broke in multiple spots.  Festool has quality tools and systainers are awesome.  Inserts made of thin brittle plastic is a little dumb.

 

[erock]

Festool in my opinion dropped the ball when it comes to inserts.  I use my tools for professional use and carry them on and off of job sites.  I bought a new df500 and the insert was broke in multiple spots.  Festool has quality tools and systainers are awesome.  Inserts made of thin brittle plastic is a little dumb.

Fair enough.  This wouldn't be the first problem with plastic regarding a Festool product.

I'm not a pro.  So I don't move my tools around as much as you.  So I was curious what the problem was with the inserts.

Maybe Kaizen foam or the like,  can help you improve the safety with your tools?   

Eric

 

[Tyler Ernsberger]

Festool in my opinion dropped the ball when it comes to inserts.  I use my tools for professional use and carry them on and off of job sites.  I bought a new df500 and the insert was broke in multiple spots.  Festool has quality tools and systainers are awesome.  Inserts made of thin brittle plastic is a little dumb.

Fair enough.  This wouldn't be the first problem with plastic regarding a Festool product.

I'm not a pro.  So I don't move my tools around as much as you.  So I was curious what the problem was with the inserts.

Maybe Kaizen foam or the like,  can help you improve the safety with your tools?   

Eric

I think kaizen foam is a good idea.  I really like the formed epp foam found in the domino xl.  I dont think I want to pay for tooling cost for a prototype In epp foam.  So kaizen may be the best solution.   

 

[Daver]

I wonder about taking the insert out, shooting the back of it with expanding foam sealant, and then placing it on a non-stick surface with the Domino etc in it as ballast, while the foam expands.
If it lifted the insert, you could trim the excess flush after it cured.
I think the key would be not to spray too much- you could always hit it a second time.
It seems like the foam might give the insert the support it needed to not break.

Dave
[scratch chin]

 

[Tyler Ernsberger]

I wonder about taking the insert out, shooting the back of it with expanding foam sealant, and then placing it on a non-stick surface with the Domino etc in it as ballast, while the foam expands.
If it lifted the insert, you could trim the excess flush after it cured.
I think the key would be not to spray too much- you could always hit it a second time.
It seems like the foam might give the insert the support it needed to not break.

Dave
[scratch chin]

I have done this before with a Fein insert and it works pretty good,  just use the low expansion for windows and doors. 

 

[Carl Prentiss]

I had to go look to see which had which of the tools I have.

Plastic
TS 55
DF 500
PS420
DTS 400
RO 150

Foam
DF 700
TS 75
OF 2200

I like the foam much better but honestly, I couldn't have told you which had which without going to look. Being that they live in homemade sysports with soft close slides, it probably doesn't matter much.

 

[GPowers]

Problem is cutting the kaizen foam to fit the Systainer and still look good.