Domino/drill press

[Tflapointe]

Totally baffled why we can't have a option on the domino to have it drill straight without back and forth side to side movement.  Making this a portable drill press.  Imagine the versatility and possibilities.    [eek]

 

[ScotF]

You can get a Mafell Duo-Doweler that drills straight.

 

[charley1968]

Nice thinking, [member=53530]Tflapointe[/member].

 

[Cheese]

Totally baffled why we can't have a option on the domino to have it drill straight without back and forth side to side movement.  Making this a portable drill press.  Imagine the versatility and possibilities.    [eek]

Great idea, maybe next Gen Domino? [thumbs up]

 

[Wuffles]

Isn't that what a plunge router kind of does though?

 

[Birdhunter]

I watched a YouTube video on the Duo Doweler. Fascinating!

In the hands of an expert user, it appears to be a great joining tool.

But, I think I will stick with my two Dominos. Unlike dowels, the Domino, with a tight/loose mortise setting, offers some latitude for some degree of misalignment.

 

[Kev]

Isn't that what a plunge router kind of does though?

My thoughts exactly [big grin]

... or we could at a fat blade the the Vecturo and use it on the plunge stand as a domino [eek]

 

[Linbro]

Yeah, but the Duo Doweller has two bits, spaced at 32mm. Makes drilling shelf support holes a breeze, when used with the excellent 'template guide'. I also use it for drilling hinge plates - set the fence to 37mm, chuck 5mm bits, and you're good to go.

 

[mcooley]

Or imagine all in one: Domino, Router, Drill Press and last but not least a mount and bed that turns the entire unit into a portable CNC machine. I'd like to see more "automated" features with Festool. For example, I am sure they could come up with a clever way to integrate some basic automation with the actual hand use of the tool etc. Just a thought. Because I know with the Carvex the Auto setting is quite good, I see potential there.

 

[Tflapointe]

Isn't that what a plunge router kind of does though?

Being able to use a domino to drill in end of stock.
Would be easier and faster.

 

[Wuffles]

Isn't that what a plunge router kind of does though?

Being able to use a domino to drill in end of stock.
Would be easier and faster.

I'll give you that, can't think of an instance where I'd want to do that though.

 

[flair woodworks]

As soon as a portable drill press of this nature is offered, we are going to want the ability to use a wide variety of bits, too.

 

[teocaf]

Are you guys talking about a festool drill stand like this?

https://www.festool.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/Detail.aspx?pid=768768

Looks like you may be able to bolt your own bases and attachments to straddle endgrain boards, etc

 

[Tflapointe]

Not really,  but it's in the ballpark.

I'm looking at being able to drill in end stock with the wood piece laying flat on the table against a stop, the same way you would using a domino to make a mortise for a tenon.

I have some furniture Im making, I want to have the ability to disassemble for ease of moving.
I thought of using some nut sleeves  & bolts. 

I could use the domino to make tenons I wouldn't glue to keep everything aligned and drill holes for nut sleeve and bolt with the drill press. 

Doing everything with the same machine would speed up production to the level of:  Game breaker!!!!

 

[Kev]

Adding a mode changing gearbox to the Domino would make it heavier, more expensive and potentially less reliable. Mostly power tools have a spinning motor at their heart, but we end up with application specific tools ... and lots of them ... for a lot of reasons.

For my interpretation of your requirement I'd be making a simple jig for a router.

Realistically you could also suggest that a circular saw doubles as a biscuit joiner, etc ... don't think you'll ever get a "German Engineering" company to think like that [big grin] [wink]

 

[Tflapointe]

The tool already is capable of 3 different settings for the width.    Adding a 4th "zero" is a big problem?    [blink]

 

[Kev]

The tool already is capable of 3 different settings for the width.    Adding a 4th "zero" is a big problem?    [blink]

One would assume that you wouldn't want to to oscillate at all if you wanted to plunge drill and I'm not about to pull either of mine apart to determine it.

Do you want a round hole or a "round-ish" hole?

More fundamentally ... why don't Festool make an ETS with an orbit you can adjust from 1.5mm all the way to 7mm ? Remember too that we're talking about German engineers here ... the sort of people that could never understand the purpose of an adjustable wrench ... you should use the right size spanner [eek]

 

[Tflapointe]

Let's look at the Rotex RO 90. 

It's got 3 different applications.

 

[Kev]

Let's look at the Rotex RO 90. 

It's got 3 different applications.

Yep - all sanding (yeh, Dominos make holes, I get it) ... the RO90 is an excellent tool. Then we have ETS125, RTS400, DTS400 ... all essentially the same thing crying out for interchangeable bases. But Festool sees the market as 3 different tools.

Your want for a mortice cutter that doubles as a drill/plunge router ... in my opinion ... isn't seen as a significant demand area by Festool. That, or strategically not what they want to do.

Let's face it, take away the oscillation and you're effectively cutting holes for dowels and the user is also not consuming dominos either!

Back on the ROTEX sanders ... they're not a tweak on an ETS, they have a purpose build multi mode gearbox designed specifically for switching modes. In the same way I don't imagine they'd tweak the Domino to just plunge.

Hey, I'm happy to be wrong ... but it's my opinion, take it or not. If you want round holes there were plenty of options before the Domino!

 

[bertv]

I'm looking at being able to drill in end stock with the wood piece laying flat on the table against a stop, the same way you would using a domino to make a mortise for a tenon.

Do a G-search for 'horizontal router' — some smart woodworkers (like Matthias Wandel, I think) have built one and it’s kind of what you want…