drum sander question

Nick

This is what I am referring to.

A surface planer/thicknesser

This will take out twist and cup
 
Phew.

I think there may be some translation issues with the planer thing.  In the UK the most common machine is a planer/thicknesser.  Mine is the Felder 531.  Over the top is regarded as the planer which is used to straighten & square the timber.  It is then put through the thicknesser to dimension the wood to its finished size.

I believe in the States you would normally have 2 separate machines for this.

Hope this makes sense  [smile]

Woodguy.
 
Woodguy I give up. I have a planer and the blades are on top as well, a planer does not take the twist out for a board and I do not want to argue at all so lets just agree to disagree.  :)

Windmill man that is a jointer(in the USA) or planer/ jointer and the blades are on the bottom and will take the twist out, I agree on that.

I thought Woodguy said the blades were on top in his post, so am I confused. He said "Over the top is regarded as the planer which is used to straighten & square the timber", so as written I disagree with that.. But seeing the picture of what Windmill man posted I agree on that machine will take the twist out for sure.

I apologize if I am sounding harsh, sometimes I come across that way, no disrespect intended at all. :)
 
Nick et al,

What is referred to as a planer in the US is called a thicknesser in the UK and Australia. What they call a planer in the UK is called a jointer in the US.

Hope this clears up the confusion.

Richard.
 
No. Its not  Just a jointer.(just looked that up) The tables lift and then it becomes a thicknesser. so you shoot the boards on the top and then lift the tables and thickness underneath.

That's why i asked what you were referring to.
 
Yep he is taking the twist out when he runs the wood over the blade and than thicknessing when he switched and the blade goes on top.

That is a two in one machine here and it is the jointer part of the machine that takes the twist out(Just like when he flattens an edge when running the material over the blade), not the planing part. All the planing does is make the two sides parallel, one side parallel to  the side he already flattened on the jointer.

My point was that a drum sander can also take that twist out, bt a planer, even the planing portion of that machine, does not take the twist out, it is the jointer taking the twist out.

I think I am done in this thread, I am sure many more people and views will come of this discussion.
 
Thank you Woodguy. Think the video has clarified the situation . Its shows very well how it takes the cup and twist out of boards.

I did ask what bit of equipment Nick was referring to and if I was getting the terminology wrong. Guess he did not read the post

properly and forgot that this is a very International Forum , and just went off half cocked.
 
No, as my preceding post explains it is NOT the planer part of the machine that has anything to do with flattening, it is the jointer, so I was not half cocked and the blades on top do not take the twist out of the board at all. It is his order of operation, the video clearly shows what I am saying. Maybe I can say planing from the top will not take the twist out, that machine in the video does because he is using the jointer to make one face flat first.

Try not using the jointer part of the machine and use the planer part only and not using his procedure, it will not take the twist out. The operator of the machine is doing it properly and using it as two machines a jointer and a planer.

You joint one face flat and copy it with the planer, planer does not take the twist out and I will stick to that.  :) I think my viewpoint is clear enough.
 
Think we better get back on topic. Drum sanders are very good for sanding components ANDsharpening your pencils  on [big grin]
 
Unless it sucks you in! Got a shirt in the drum sander once and almost got my pony tail as well.  ;D
 
          Maybe if you UK guys called it a jointer/thicknesser Nick would agree? [unsure]
 
nickao said:
Woodguy I give up. I have a planer and the blades are on top as well, a planer does not take the twist out for a board and I do not want to argue at all so lets just agree to disagree.  :)

Windmill man that is a jointer(in the USA) or planer/ jointer and the blades are on the bottom and will take the twist out, I agree on that.

I thought Woodguy said the blades were on top in his post, so am I confused. He said "Over the top is regarded as the planer which is used to straighten & square the timber", so as written I disagree with that.. But seeing the picture of what Windmill man posted I agree on that machine will take the twist out for sure.

I apologize if I am sounding harsh, sometimes I come across that way, no disrespect intended at all. :)
Click to expand...

Nickao,

Could you post a picture of this planer your talking about that wont take out cupping or twist ??? You say yours has the blades on top, so that is a jointer then isnt it ????

EDIT Sorry Nickao I get what your talking about, when you said blade on top i was thinking of the where is was on the machine, but your talking about where it is relative to the material. So i absolutely agree with you that a thicknesser will not take out twist, and may only take out a veeeeeery small amount or cupping, depending on how much pressure the feed rollers are putting on the material.Ok back on topic then.

One of the great things about the occelating feature the JET 22-44 is that glue line really are a non issue now. With the drum occelating there no chance of the glue building up on one part of the drum. Burning is also another thing it helps with. Because the drum is always moving side to side the heat build up you find in standard drum sanders is cut quite a bit. I tested this already. I pushed through a piece of material with the occelation off, and then with it on. I could actually feel the difference in the warmth of the wood. With the occelation on the wood was alot cooler.
 
Wayne, sounds like a good peice of kit.

Nick, i did not realise that the sander will take out twist.  Makes me want one even more now  [big grin]

Woodguy
 
I had this one board of curly maple that had a nasty twist to it. I did some jointing, followed by thickness planing, and it lay flat and true......  until the humidity changed.

Twisty boards are best made into veneer, in my opinion.

Charles
 
Yep, wood sure has a memory doesn't it. I usually cut up the twisted boards into smaller pieces and save them.

One thing I have learned though, some of the most messed up, twisted, cupped, warped boards can have the most amazing figure ever.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Crazyraceguy
Bullet resistant security desk updated pics (new)
Replies
18
Views
1K
Crazyraceguy
Crazyraceguy
friedchicken
Hallo from Texas
Replies
7
Views
849
jayco
J
P
ETS EC 150/3 issues
Replies
4
Views
1K
Cheese
Cheese
mcfal12
Makita XBU02Z Blower
Replies
0
Views
95
mcfal12
mcfal12
T
Will a Dust Extractor work with a small drum sander?
Replies
5
Views
2K
Alanbach
A
Back
Top