Dust Collection Pipe System

[Cheese]

I like the Magports but have not bought any yet. Most of my stuff stays connected, but I can think of one place where the Magport would be handy.

As Mario stated, these things really hang tough. It takes an act of God to pull these things apart.

I had those cheap friction fit connectors sold by Woodcraft and others and the things always disconnected by themselves. They really are are a POS, I have 4 of them that I will recycle for the scrapers. These MagPort connectors are real slick.

The other neat thing is if you don't want to drop the hose on the ground, you can attach the hose to the port but in a disconnected manner.

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[Mario Turcot]

Yes clear tubes is a must but at x9 the price  [eek] I'd think twice. Care to show some picts?

The magports are really robust and get disconnected in a simple & easy 1/8 twist... works for lefties too  [tongue]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member], thank you for the picts... you know how I like them  [wink]

Look what you have me do,  after thinking about your suggestion to make the flex shorter.
Before
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After
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Reduced the flex of 4' shorter.  [smile]

I did a test at the drill press and the suction was stronger then my shopvac.

 

[Cheese]

That's sweet Mario, it doesn't take much shortening of the flex hose to make a major difference in the capabilities of the dust collector.

Just like an HVAC system, it's the systemic losses throughout the system that make the difference.  [big grin]

I like the lefties comment...it reminds me of my dad...he was a southpaw.  [smile]

 

[Bob D.]

Do Magports come in sizes other than 4"/100mm ?

I have a 4" drop near my router table which I have a 4x2 wye to run to my router table fence. But I also use this with my long shop vac hose for general cleanup around the shop because it is centrally located and I can reach everywhere from that one connection. Having the Magport connector on there would be great as the hose is always falling out of this elevated connection.

I'll have to look. Sounds like a good Father's Day gift suggestion.

I found them quickly enough.
https://magport.net/products/magport-2-5-magnetic-coupling-used-in-dust-collection-for-woodworking

 

[Bob D.]

Mario/Cheese,

I blame you both for me buying a bunch of Magports just now.

Looking forward to using them to improve my dust collection system.
I think the 2.5 inch will be the most useful for quick connections at
the router table and drill press.

Thanks.

Anyone tried fitting the 2.5 inch ports to the larger Festool hoses?

 

[Mario Turcot]

[member=60461]Bob D.[/member]  Thank you for putting a  [big grin] on my face this morning. I'm sure you won't be able to resist to the temptation of showing off your Magport setup [popcorn]

 

[mwolczko]

Yes clear tubes is a must but at x9 the price  [eek] I'd think twice. Care to show some picts?

Here you go.  Yes, they're expensive, but if you've ever had to clear a blockage you'll appreciate the time saved.

 

[Mario Turcot]

Awesome, thanks for the pictures  [thumbs up]

Q: What glue you used for the blast gates?

 

[mwolczko]

I used a silicone caulk. It sticks enough to hold, but is easily cleaned off if you want to take them apart.
The clear tubes are a very tight push fit in the unions — no sealer or tape needed.

 

[Bob D.]

Yes clear tubes is a must but at x9 the price  [eek] I'd think twice. Care to show some picts?

Here you go.  Yes, they're expensive, but if you've ever had to clear a blockage you'll appreciate the time saved.

In your second photo, if you could rotate that wye 45° toward the path of the flex hose you would take that sharp bend out of the flex and improve flow significantly.

 

[jeh]

Thanks for informing about something I needed but did not know I needed.

 

[Mario Turcot]

Thanks for informing about something I needed but did not know I needed.

Hey Jim, glad you learned something out of this thread.

I believe thread like this are a good opportunity to increase everyone knowledge. Not because I am the one that start it, most threads are about sharing/acquiring knowledge. This particular thread purpose was to gather as much expertise as possible about the subject. I'm pretty sure all the participants and the ones that read through this thread, learned something  [big grin]

 

[mwolczko]

In your second photo, if you could rotate that wye 45° toward the path of the flex hose you would take that sharp bend out of the flex and improve flow significantly.

The hose you see there is attached to a hand-held sweep, which is stored on hooks below the ceiling. In use, the hose hangs down and the bend is much less acute.

 

[Vondawg]

I also got a lot out of this tread Mario...ordered up the magports and shortened up my flex.....thanks!

 

[Gregor]

After

Reduced the flex of 4' shorter.  [smile]

I would do the following: detach the motor from the base and mount in onto the left side wall so the inlet points up and mount the collector directly to the motor part (getting rid of the elbow between the motor and the collector). Then extend the 45° tube at the top while twisting it away from the back wall so it reaches toward the left wall above the inlet, another 45° there to go down with the tubing directly into it.

Upside would be that it would save you the two lower 45° ones and the flex tube (thus removing quite some airflow reduction) and frees the floor space currently occupied by the motor (as it would move up to where the elbow between motor and collector currently is), use a smaller cart to support the bag in case you want to get rid of the now too big rolling base - downside would be that it'll be stationary, unless you hang the motor onto the cleats...

 

[travisj]

That’s how I did mine.  I hung the motor on the wall directly connected to the filter which I hung from the ceiling

and have the cyclone mounted to a drum below.  It’s not optimal to have a sharp 90 into the cyclone, but for now it will have to do.  (Sorry the shop is a disaster right now.  Stuff everywhere).

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[gnlman]

The only issue with doing what Gregor describes is the flanges on the housing and the motor housing won't line up and you'll require a transition piece as one flange will be horizontal and one vertical. I did a mod to same dust collector but added a super dust deputy. Made a big difference and keeps suction at a constant. That dust collector really sucks, and eliminating the elbow and adding the dust deputy seems to be a wash in regards to suction. I don't have a finished picture, but one in progress, I'll try and post it. I had a welder make me a transition piece and it worked great..one thing I should mention is I "borrowed" (with permission) the idea from a nice guy on another forum...lol
Since this picture, I added a set of wheels on the barrel, and raised the deputy(it fits perfectly into the inlet of the fan shroud) and have a hose from the bottom of the deputy into the barrel....no hose between the motor shroud and the dust deputy. If you look close you will see the transition piece between the flanges....sorry there is a bunch of crap in front of it now I'll take another picture if you are interested later tonight or tomorrow once I tidy up a bit...
Greg
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[travisj]

The only issue with doing what Gregor describes is the flanges on the housing and the motor housing won't line up and you'll require a transition piece as one flange will be horizontal and one vertical. I did a mod to same dust collector but added a super dust deputy. Made a big difference and keeps suction at a constant. That dust collector really sucks, and eliminating the elbow and adding the dust deputy seems to be a wash in regards to suction. I don't have a finished picture, but one in progress, I'll try and post it. I had a welder make me a transition piece and it worked great..one thing I should mention is I "borrowed" (with permission) the idea from a nice guy on another forum...lol
Since this picture, I added a set of wheels on the barrel, and raised the deputy(it fits perfectly into the inlet of the fan shroud) and have a hose from the bottom of the deputy into the barrel....no hose between the motor shroud and the dust deputy. If you look close you will see the transition piece between the flanges....sorry there is a bunch of crap in front of it now I'll take another picture if you are interested later tonight or tomorrow once I tidy up a bit...
Greg
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That’s a nice and clean looking setup.  I may have to borrow some of those ideas when I rebuild my system.

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[Gregor]

The only issue with doing what Gregor describes is the flanges on the housing and the motor housing won't line up and you'll require a transition piece as one flange will be horizontal and one vertical.

I came up with the idea when mounting a similar system some years back, that one didn't have this problem as the flanges on that one were symmetrical.

But: Them being (within reason) asymetrical is nothing that a power drill, a few nuts and bolts and some sealant can't fix in a few minutes.

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[Mario Turcot]

[member=53905]Gregor[/member] that's a very interesting thought. I will probably operate the system as is for a while, just in case I decide to move it some where else in the shop.

[member=53578]travisj[/member] & [member=8389]gnlman[/member] Both, nice setup & thanks for the picture  [thumbs up]

Right now I only did a test at the drill press and suction was more then adequate. In fact I thought of putting some kind of mesh wire to prevent small part to get sucked. I will at the propeller for sure, since I notice some brand have that feature.

The only part left is the drop in the center of the shop for the table/band saws. I have to come up with something that will securely hold that part
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to the drop
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Okay, time for a poll:

1) Keep the shown part above to connect both power tools
2) Only put a single blast gate and a magport right after the Y
3) Your own option