Dust Deputy On Systainer

[Scott W.]

I know there was a thread discussing weather a DD or CV6 would crush a systainer but for the life of me I can't find it.

Matt, Feel free to move this to that thread.

Anyway, here are some photos and a test I did.

Scott W.

Start with 1 lb of dust & chips.

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Empty chip box in systainer 5

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Dump the 1 lb of dust/chips

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Suck them back up

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Continued.....

 

[Scott W.]

Let's see what we got...
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14.2 ounces 88.75%
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Maybe a little left in the box, hoses etc.
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Here's the setup
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Scott W.

 

[nickao]

Scott you beat me to it! I was attaching the ClearVue, but mine arrived damaged.

I was told it was impossible and not to waste my time. I am glad to see you did it with finesse', looks great!

Nickao

 

[nickao]

What is the lining material, its hard to tell?

nickao

And again for the naysayers who tried talking me out of doing it:

The one who says it can't be done should avoid interrupting the person doing it.

 

[Scott W.]

What is the lining material, its hard to tell?

Just some scrap pieces of plywood I had laying around foam gasket tape on top edge.

Scott W.

 

[jonny round boy]

I'd like to do something similar for my CT Mini, but as far as I know no-one in the UK makes/sells these kind of cyclones. Does anyone know any different? If so, I'd be grateful for a link or two...

 

[nickao]

I would have gladly sent you mine, I just sold it here on the FOG.

If ClearVue will not ship it to you I will gladly ship one to you at cost through UPS if you feel the shipping cost is worth it. I have no idea of the shipping on something like this.

ClearVue

Nickao

 

[nickao]

Looks like the ship cost is from 88.00 to 138.00 US dollars to the UK, Depending on the service and packaging.

If you are interested an exact address is needed for an accurate quote. PM me anytime.

Nickao

 

[jonny round boy]

I would have gladly sent you mine, I just sold it here on the FOG.

If ClearVue will not ship it to you I will gladly ship one to you at cost through UPS if you feel the shipping cost is worth it. I have no idea of the shipping on something like this.

ClearVue

Nickao

Thanks Nickao - I've just e-mailed ClearVue to see if they'll ship here. Also, I just found out that Dust Deputy have been advertising in the UK magazines recently, so it looks like they're looking to sell them over here (although they are far from cheap - the one in Scott's post seems to be advertised for 160GBP - 320USD!!!).

 

[nickao]

The clearvue people are so nice. They probably get better Daily rates through UPS too, good luck!

Nickao

 

[Jack G]

Looks great! I have one on my shop vac and it keeps the filter clean - great time  & mess saver. I hadn't really thought about using on CT, but it should sure save on the expensive bags.  Jack

 

[Ned]

Scott--

There's a definite coolness factor here, but it seems to me it doesn't bring any advantages over a fiber drum of similar volume mounted to a piece of plywood cut to the shape of the Systainer mounting points.

Neither the Sys 5 nor the drum would allow stacking additional Systainers on top.

If you could rapidly dismount the Dust Deputy and store it in the Systainer for storage or transport, and the Systainer could have other units latched on top when the DD was stowed, well, that might be a reason to go with it.

How about the Dust Deputy, or equivalent cyclone, actually built into a Systainer?  Side inlet and outlet.  Foam gasket between Sys CYC (tm) and the Sys 5.  Both latchable, top or bottom, anytime.

Don't forget the Systainer dolly if you'd like to have the cyclone and waste drum off the CT.

Ned

 

[Scott W.]

Scott--

There's a definite coolness factor here, but it seems to me it doesn't bring any advantages over a fiber drum of similar volume mounted to a piece of plywood cut to the shape of the Systainer mounting points.

Neither the Sys 5 nor the drum would allow stacking additional Systainers on top.

If you could rapidly dismount the Dust Deputy and store it in the Systainer for storage or transport, and the Systainer could have other units latched on top when the DD was stowed, well, that might be a reason to go with it.

How about the Dust Deputy, or equivalent cyclone, actually built into a Systainer?  Side inlet and outlet.  Foam gasket between Sys CYC (tm) and the Sys 5.  Both latchable, top or bottom, anytime.

Don't forget the Systainer dolly if you'd like to have the cyclone and waste drum off the CT.

Ned

Ned ,

It would be pretty easy to make it removable to store inside by using threaded knobs instead of nuts to hold it on. Mine won't leave the shop so not a concern for me.

I actually had it on the Systainer dolly & was going to make a "trailer hitch" that hooks to the cord wrap on the CT22 & attaches to the dolly I may do that yet, we'll see.

Scott W.

 

[semenza]

Hi,

      Very cool Scott. 8)    You could still put other systainers or a sortainer under it. Perhaps for cleaning attachments.

Seth

 

[nickao]

It really doesn't have any disadvantages over using a drum either. I guess the 70 bucks for the systainer is one drawback, but with all the money I have spent I think it is worth a little more for the coolness factor!

Nickao

 

[Michael Kellough]

Here's the setup
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Scott W.

I am surprised how small the Dust Deputy is. How does the size compare to the Clear View?

I get the impression that the shape of the reservoir is irrelevant, that all the important stuff happens in the DD itself. If so, why should the reservoir be any larger in diameter than the DD? The setup would be a lot more compact if the DD sat on top of a length of 8" Sonotube attached to the handle of the vac, and keep the deck of the vac clear for active Systainers. I think there may more versatile options for a tall tube like reservoir. Am I right in thinking that a smaller diameter tube/drum is more resistant to imploding?

 

[Scott W.]

I am surprised how small the Dust Deputy is. How does the size compare to the Clear View?

I get the impression that the shape of the reservoir is irrelevant, that all the important stuff happens in the DD itself. If so, why should the reservoir be any larger in diameter than the DD? The setup would be a lot more compact if the DD sat on top of a length of 8" Sonotube attached to the handle of the vac, and keep the deck of the vac clear for active Systainers. I think there may more versatile options for a tall tube like reservoir. Am I right in thinking that a smaller diameter tube/drum is more resistant to imploding?

Yes, I was surprised it was so small also. It weighs about 5 lbs. I don't have a CV so I don't know how they compare size wise.
The mounting on the systainer was more of a "could it be done" than anything else. I like Ned's idea of making it so it could be stored inside or mounted inside a systainer for those who take it "on the road" but mine will never leave the shop.
I have a systainer dolly that it may end up on before it's all over. I'm waiting for a few hose fittings to come from Timmy.

Scott W.

 

[dltflt]

Scott you beat me to it! I was attaching the ClearVue, but mine arrived damaged.

I was told it was impossible and not to waste my time. I am glad to see you did it with finesse', looks great!

Nickao

Nickao our Idea did work. ;D

It is only an advantage for us who never leave their shop because it give total mobility.  We don't need to store our sytainers on top of the DC we can store them in sysports.

 

[nickao]

Yes very true.

I will post when I get my ClearVue up and running.

Nickao

 

[Ned]

I am surprised how small the Dust Deputy is. How does the size compare to the Clear View?

I get the impression that the shape of the reservoir is irrelevant, that all the important stuff happens in the DD itself. If so, why should the reservoir be any larger in diameter than the DD?

Agreed, provided that you can get an acceptable amount of waste storage for whatever it is you're doing.

The setup would be a lot more compact if the DD sat on top of a length of 8" Sonotube attached to the handle of the vac, and keep the deck of the vac clear for active Systainers. I think there may more versatile options for a tall tube like reservoir. Am I right in thinking that a smaller diameter tube/drum is more resistant to imploding?

Here's a thought--design your Dust Deputy mount so that it will fit several different waste containers.  A relatively small tube on the vac handle for sanding, a much larger drum for when you're running your lunchbox planer.

Ned