ETS EC 150 with optional 10 M covered hose

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I have a project to sand down and repaint the gable end trim on an old house next summer  and I am planning to get an ETS EC 150 to do the elevated over head sanding to remove the peeling paint on the old pine trim. I noticed a 10M covered 27mm vacuum hose option that might be handy to simplify getting the sander around at heights. The hose costs $500Can. Is this a suitable use for this long hose with a midi? Would a better option be to get a dust deputy and cheap long run of hose to the ETS sander to give the same range?
Thanks for any suggestions.
Regards
Doug
 
The ETS EC 150 is perfectly fine to strip paint. I does take a bit longer than with one of the sanders Jason mentions above, but it still works. Especially if you have the /5 model.

The 10m sleeved hose is not necessarily needed to work on a ceiling, the standard 27mm hose has a reach of 3,5 meters and that's enough to get to most ceilings.
 
Alex said:
...that's enough to get to most ceilings.
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landowner said:
I have a project to sand down and repaint the gable end trim on an old house next summer...
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I'd assume this is external work at height rather than ceilings [member=5277]Alex[/member] so a longer hose would be beneficial in this case.

[member=14002]landowner[/member] you can either buy a long hose, or join shorter hoses together. For the sanders, you don't have to worry too much about hose length - a 27mm hose is fine at 15m with a RO 150, and even longer with smaller sanders such as the ETS 125 and DTS 400 where you can go up to 18m. Using combinations of 50mm, 36mm and 27mm you can go even further (see the attached for more information).

So it's really up to you which hose you choose based on what else you might use it for in the future. You could go with the 10m hose, or join two 5.0m hoses, or even three 3.5m hoses should you wish. The attached also tells you what parts you'll need to do the joining, so you should be good to go.

As [member=5277]Alex[/member] mentions, the ETS 150/5 is OK for paint removal using low grits, but it's not the ideal sander for the task you mention. Again though, the best choice will depend on what else you might want to use the sander for and whether you think you'll just buy one or whether more might be in your future.
 

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I can assure you from my own experience that working with hoses longer then 3,5 m is not so nice.
The movement of the machine gets obstructed with the weight of the hose.

Using it vertical with the hose down it's oké, but when turned a little to get into corners the hose pulls on the machine and you have to use your other hand to support the hose.
And when working on a ladder with a long hose is even more dangerous.
If possible place the DE on the roof or other storeys and put the hose through the window and use the short hose.
Or better use the paper dust bags or latest Flex "cyclone".
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GarryMartin said:
I'd assume this is external work at height rather than ceilings [member=5277]Alex[/member] so a longer hose would be beneficial in this case.
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Ha, early in the morning and still needed my coffee, I read that wrong. Sorry OP.  [embarassed]

neeleman said:
I can assure you from my own experience that working with hoses longer then 3,5 m is not so nice.
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And when working on a ladder with a long hose is even more dangerous.
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I agree it can be quite a challenge on a ladder. Whenever I need to do that I tape the hose to the ladder, takes most of the weight off.
 
Probably not adequate for keeping lead paint dust from getting in you or your neighbors' lungs.

Go with a vac with HEPA filtration.  Festool and Fein are solid choices.

neeleman said:
I can assure you from my own experience that working with hoses longer then 3,5 m is not so nice.
The movement of the machine gets obstructed with the weight of the hose.

Using it vertical with the hose down it's oké, but when turned a little to get into corners the hose pulls on the machine and you have to use your other hand to support the hose.
And when working on a ladder with a long hose is even more dangerous.
If possible place the DE on the roof or other storeys and put the hose through the window and use the short hose.
Or better use the paper dust bags or latest Flex "cyclone".
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The Midi would be a fine choice.  No need for a Dust Deputy separation system for the volume of waste you'll be generating with the sander.  The ETS 150/5 would be a good choice.
 
Wow... great feedback. Thanks everyone for sharing their expertise.
Festool prices are going up 10% in Canada on Jan 1 so I'm getting my shopping list finished for the projects on the horizon.
I will have two 27 mm hoses from Festool vacs and a 36mm from a cleaning set to join together so I can get the reach I need to get to the trim with a vacuum in the second story windows, so I can dodge that 10M hose purchase.
On the choice of  sander, I have the RO150 the RO90 and the RTS400 already in my shop... I just thought the RO150 might be a bit awkward on the ladder with the hose and thought the ETS EC150 ergonomics and light weight might simplify the overhead effort and increase the reach from the ladder.
The RAS and the deltex units are not sold by the dealer I use.... I expect there is an electrical code thing with them for use in Canada so that isn't an option for me.
Good point on the lead paint, I expect that is up there and needs to be handled properly.
Thanks again for the guidance and suggestions.
Regards
Doug
 
Alex said:
I agree it can be quite a challenge on a ladder. Whenever I need to do that I tape the hose to the ladder, takes most of the weight off.
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I use a painters 'S' hook from a rung of the ladder and hooked into a loop of Velcro on the hose, then it's easy to adjust to the right length of 'free' hose.

Pete
 
landowner said:
The RAS and the deltex units are not sold by the dealer I use.... I expect there is an electrical code thing with them for use in Canada so that isn't an option for me.
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The RAS is available in Canada.  They've been moving pretty well for us.  The Deltex has been discontinued with the RO 90 as its replacement.
 
Yes... I tried another Canadian dealer and yes the RAS is available again in Canada. Festool went through the hoops to get CSA blessing for the RAS. So I ordered one to beat the price increase.... and I will be armed and ready with the right tool for my paint removing adventure in the spring... along with my RO 90 to deal with the corners .
Regards
 
landowner said:
Yes... I tried another Canadian dealer and yes the RAS is available again in Canada. Festool went through the hoops to get CSA blessing for the RAS. So I ordered one to beat the price increase.... and I will be armed and ready with the right tool for my paint removing adventure in the spring... along with my RO 90 to deal with the corners .
Regards
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. Please note that the  RAS will tend to be the messiest sander of all that you've asked about when it comes to dust collection. It's more of a debris screen around the disc and some dust collection added to it since there aren't  any center holes to pull through on RAS abrasives and the machine itself.
Learn how to rotate the handle/Outer Brush Screen to keep stray crud from hitting you in the face if you've got the RAS above or near your head while on a ladder.
Saphir to remove the paint, don't go too aggressive with grit levels on soft woods, it's easy to dig in on soft woods and create divots..
If you reach bare wood, Rubin will sand nicely as long as there is no paint to clog it up with.
 
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