FastFix Keyless Ratcheting Chuck - 496905

[legendtwo]

Ti 15 Hybrid Impact Cordless Drill / Driver - 564291

The drill and accessories are new.  Never used.  Purchased from display at WoodCraft in Columbus, OH.  Installed the FastFix Keyless Ratcheting Chuck - 496905 but cannot get the bit griping mechanism to tighten or loosen...it will not budge.  Is there something that can be done or that I have to do to get this to work.

I am certain I have attached the chuck properly.  I hope this is not just a bad chuck and I have to send it in for repair or replacement already.

 

[TOOLTOWN]

If I remember correctly from last time I played with the TI-15, you need to pull the sleeve back and then turn.

Since there is no gear to "push" against in the drill, pulling the sleeve back locks the chuck out of rotating, allowing the jaws to tighten/loosen.

Ken

 

[legendtwo]

Have a new Ti 15 Hybrid Impact Cordless Drill / Driver - 564291 and installed the FastFix Keyless Ratcheting Chuck in order to utilize some hole saw bits. 

The drill has never been used, nor have any of the accessories.  I cannot get the clamping jaws of the chuck to release.  They will move in neither the tightening or loosening direction. 

Is there something that can be done to remedy this short of taking it back to the point of purchase for repair or replacement?

 

[TOOLTOWN]

Legend,

I posted this in your other thread, but will re-post here also:

If I remember correctly from last time I played with the TI-15, you need to pull the sleeve back and then turn.

Since there is no gear to "push" against in the drill, pulling the sleeve back locks the chuck out of rotating, allowing the jaws to tighten/loosen.

Ken

 

[legendtwo]

Are you referring to the pulling back action you need to perform in order to attach the chuck to the drill.  You then rotate the chuck, once it is on the drills mountng shaft, to lock it.  After it is attached, I cannot get the clamping jaws of the chuck to loosen in order to put a bit of any kind in the chuck.

Am I supposed to pull that sleeve out again?  If I do that, I think the chuck detaches from the drill.

 

[TOOLTOWN]

Sorry, I should have clarified.  There are two sleeves if my memory is correct.  One is for the fast fix system (attaching and removing the chuck) this one is found furthest from the jaws.

The sleeve I am referring to is essentially the entire center body of the chuck.  Grip the center of the chuck, pull back toward the drill, and rotate.

I hope i made that clear, I am writing this from memory since I am not in the shop at the moment.

To be sure you have the correct chuck with the drill, there should be an image that looks like an arrow pointing back followed by an arrow pointing to the side, followed by a lock symbol.  You said in the other post this was a display model.  I'm fairly sure the "regular" chucks will not fit the TI-15, but there is a chance that I'm mistaken about compatibility and you have the wrong chuck as a result of it being a display.

Ken

 

[legendtwo]

I appreciate your input.  The Chuck that came in the systainer box appears to be the same chuck listed in the accessories section of your website for the specific drill I have.  I believe it is the correct chuck.  The Jaws are currently seated in the very bottom of the chuck, as close to the attachment point of the drill as I think they can get.  There are indeed two moving sleeves.  The bottom sleeve, with a green ring around it, as I understand, is used to slide the chuck onto the drill itself.  The second sleeve, which has a picture of an arrow and alock on it, is a rotating barrel that I guess locks the chuck in place.  I have toyed with both of these with the chuck on the drill, but I cannot seem to get the jaws to loosen.

In any other keyless chuck drill I have owned, you simply grip the body of the chuck, the put the drill in reverse or forward to loosen or tighten the jaws.  This seems to do nothing in the case of my new drill.

The chuck jaws were already in the position they were when I installed it on the drill.  I have not gotten them to move to loosen to insert a bit as of yet.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

If you indeed have 496905, that is not the keyless chuck that comes with the TI 15. You need 498886, which is longer than the keyless chuck you're referencing and made for the TI 15.

Correct keyless chuck:

496905 chuck:

498886, you can see there's an icon about pulling the chuck back to engage the lock.

 

[TOOLTOWN]

I'm sorry you are having trouble.  But we are making progress...

You are correct, the sleeve with the ring is indeed for seating and removing the chuck from the drill body.

An impact drill is different from other drills with a keyless chuck you may have used.  In other drills there are gears that make contact inside the body of the drill which create a counter pressure allowing you to simply rotate the chuck, thus moving the jaws.  In an impact drill such as this one there are no gears to push against, resulting in the chuck moving around without engaging the jaws.  The action accomplished with the second moving sleeve essentially locks the chuck against the two posts sticking out of the front of the drill, creating the counter pressure necessary to engage the jaws.

I want you to grasp the portion of the chuck with the arrow and lock symbols, pull it back (toward the drill body) firmly, and then rotate the chuck in your hand.

Let me know if this still doesn't make sense.

Ken

 

[legendtwo]

Well, I did it.  I got the jaws out by doing what you described by pulling the sleeve with the lock icon on it backward toward the drill and rotating it untill the jaws came out of the chuck. 

Now, however, I cannot get that "click, click" sound from that same sleeve that you are supposed to hear when you mount the chuck to the drill and the rotate the sleeve with the lock on it.

I feel like a goof here, but this drill seems to be a bit different than what I am used to.  What happened to that clicking sound I was getting that suggested I locked the chuck?

 

[TOOLTOWN]

That clicking only happens after the jaws stop moving (like when they come in contact with a bit) and start to really tighten down.  In some cases, the sound can be quiet enough that you may not hear it.

You are definitely not a goof    This drill operates differently than you may be used to and it will take a little time to adjust.

I'm happy it all worked out.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Ken