Fein vs Festool

I think Fein is still the way to go for you.
In Europe there are several offerings for a FMM 350 Q or SuperCut FSC 2.0 Q in original Fein T-Loc systainers.
Some of them are offered at fantastic prices. Just use Google to find out the best prices.
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Another consideration is that the Supercut has an adaptor that allows use of the standard, and easier to find MM blades and accessories.
 
I went through the Vecturo vs MM350 a while back and when Tool Nut had the MM Systainer Edition I went for that and have no regrets - does everything I want. What hasn't been mentioned is the excellent dust collection with the MM - I was concerned that it would not be up to Festool quality but when hooked to the CT26 with 27mm hose (fits perfectly) it could not be better.
 
rst said:
I'm only glad they do not carry the 18V impact as I use an impact more than anything; commercial steel and aluminum door work and I'm afraid it might show up my Milwaukee.
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[member=25351]rst[/member] You realize that it's an exact replica of the Milwaukee, right? And not even the brushless one.
 
For occasional use, don't overlook the Harbor Freight ones. I think mine cost around $20 on sale; the one without the variable speed This along with inexpensive blades from Amazon doest most all of what I need from installing flooring (like the OP asked about), cutting in junction boxes, repairing doors, installing floor registers or cutting out rotted wood.

I cant say I've ever run into a situation where I needed more power. The cutting is mainly a funtion of the blades. The downsides are that it is noisy (you need to wear haring protection and should be do so anyways) and there is a good bit of vibration but not unmanageably so. Also, blade changes require the use of an allen key.
 
I was considering the purchase of a DTS 400 sander to get into the corners which my ETS EC 150/3 can't reach, but after reading this thread and looking into the Fein Multimaster, I realized I could get the FMM350Q systainer version for only $44.00 more than the cost of the DTS 400.  That way I'd have the inside corner sanding capability with dust extraction, plus all the other Multimaster functionality. Seems like a no brainer to me...

Thanks for introducing me to the Fein Multimaster!
 
Steve-Rice said:
I was considering the purchase of a DTS 400 sander to get into the corners which my ETS EC 150/3 can't reach, but after reading this thread and looking into the Fein Multimaster, I realized I could get the FMM350Q systainer version for only $44.00 more than the cost of the DTS 400.  That way I'd have the inside corner sanding capability with dust extraction, plus all the other Multimaster functionality. Seems like a no brainer to me...

Thanks for introducing me to the Fein Multimaster!
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Steve,  I bought my Multimaster in 2001 and have loved it.  But before you decide on an tool and if sanding is in the equation, NONE of the multi tools will relate positively versus the dedicated sanders.  It sounds like a delta nosed sander of some brand would suit you usage better.

Peter
 
I can't agree with DC being good on the Fein multi master.

For a long time I had an ETS150 along with Rupes delta and Rupes 150. The ETS ended my relationship with the Rupes 150 ... but I still laboured on with the Rupes delta (in a cloud of dust).

When I got my multi master I thought I had a new sanding option in my repertoire, but it didn't sand very well and left a lot of debris relative to the amount of material it removed ... and the dust it left floating was vey fine.

Now I have both the DTS400 and the RO90. Both pick up really well, but I'll use the DTS400 in preference to almost anything else when it's applicable to a job. It's a really sweet little sander.
 
I do flooring and use the Rigid Jobmax everyday for the past 7 years. I had the old Bosch version and both did the same.  I stuck with the job max due to the optional jigsaw and reciprocating heads. (the jigsaw head is not the greatest but the cuts for those gets covered by door casings. I wish the oscillating head had a quick release but for the price it's tolerable.
I STRONGLY recommend the new carbide blades from Bosch. They last forever and cut metal too.
 
Kev said:
I can't agree with DC being good on the Fein multi master.

For a long time I had an ETS150 along with Rupes delta and Rupes 150. The ETS ended my relationship with the Rupes 150 ... but I still laboured on with the Rupes delta (in a cloud of dust).

When I got my multi master I thought I had a new sanding option in my repertoire, but it didn't sand very well and left a lot of debris relative to the amount of material it removed ... and the dust it left floating was vey fine.

Now I have both the DTS400 and the RO90. Both pick up really well, but I'll use the DTS400 in preference to almost anything else when it's applicable to a job. It's a really sweet little sander.
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[member=13058]Kev[/member] could you not fit your hose to the Rupes or something?

I too have picked up a delta sander in addition to my OMT, I decided on the Bosch 1294VS after much deliberation since Festool axed the DX 93. I previously had the RO 90 too, but didn't find it very useful except for delta use. So for 1/3 the price, and arguably more functionality, I went w/ the Bosch. The design is almost 17 years old now (I first found it referenced in 1999), but continues to be one of their great tools. Made in Switzerland, for those who care about things like that.
 
I appreciate all the feedback regarding the use of the multi master as significantly less desirable than the DTS 400, but my intended use would only be the small corner areas my ETS EC 150/3 couldn't get into.  Not really much area to speak of.  Still don't think the Fein would suffice?

Admittedly, I do have the hots for the DTS 400...  [big grin]
 
sae said:
[member=13058]Kev[/member] could you not fit your hose to the Rupes or something?
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I used the vacuum hose with both Rupes sanders. The Delta just seemed to get blocked up all the time. It could have been the materials I was sanding and the abrasives in their day as factors.

We are talking many years ago too!

 
Steve-Rice said:
I appreciate all the feedback regarding the use of the multi master as significantly less desirable than the DTS 400, but my intended use would only be the small corner areas my ETS EC 150/3 couldn't get into.  Not really much area to speak of.  Still don't think the Fein would suffice?

Admittedly, I do have the hots for the DTS 400...  [big grin]
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Hand sanding would probably "suffice" .. it's really a personal thing. You'd probably feel sanding with the Fein to be a leap from hand sanding, then a DTS400 is another step again.

My thinking would be .. if you have a need for the multi master anyway, just try it for sanding without going crazy buying abrasives. Buying more tools is far less hassle than "un-buying" them [wink]
 
Thanks, Kev.  Points well made.

I don't actually need the multi master, I just have this insatiable tool fetish...

The best solution is probably to just buy both....  [big grin]
 
Which one of the machines have the blades cheaper? Have blades for cut metal?
Fein MM no have adaptor for blades, no?
 
Normally the MM blades are little cheaper, but only around €3/piece.
MM E-Cut metal blade 29x60 cost €15, and SC E-Cut metal blade 29x60 cost €18.
You can also buy MM blades in 10 packs for €130. And SC blades in 25 packs for €344.
MM has no need for adapter, only SC needs adapter for using MM blades.
Normally the MM Adapter is part of the SC set.

I also had good results to resharpen dull blades by Leitz for just around €9/blade.
But I think it's only possible for wood blades.
 
If you can find the Bosch carbide blades which are mentioned previously, you will be way better off money wise.  Try one and see.  I used one to cut nails, screws, some sort of ceramic wall tile and lots of wood.  I would have went through 5 of the fein bimetal blades not counting the tile & screws cause the hss won't cut that at all.  After all that the carbide blade still has a few teeth left but I finally retired it.  It is not the most aggressive wood cutting blade (teeth are really small), but for metal, I cut some c-channel that was about 3" wide x 1 1/2" deep x 1/8" thick.  I made two cuts through this with a new blade and the blade still feels and looks brand new.
 
I posted several months ago about using the Bosch carbide blades while cutting large sections in plaster walls. Fantastic blades for alternative hard materials. As already mentioned, they aren't quick in wood because of the fine teeth, Falk makes a very nice cutting wood blade.
 
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