Festool Drill - Opinions vs. Hilti

drewplunkett · May 4, 2011

I love the power and battery life of my hilti drill driver, I love the idea of the interchangeable chucks on the festool drills. Im wondering if the festool drill has the power to compare to my hilti. I have the 14.4V hilti by the way. Please share if anybody has compared these same drills.

Administrator_JSVN · May 4, 2011

Drew,

The T 15 is going to out perform other 14.4v drills. In fact, the T12 should outperform your 14.4v. It has a brushless motor which is more efficient. Remember you can take advantage of our 30-day money back guarantee if you get one and decide you're not satisfied.

I'm sure members will offer their opinions and insight on the matter. Just wanted to share my 2 cents. [wink]

Shane

James Watriss · May 4, 2011

I've broken screw heads off with my C12, which is more than I can say for my DW 18V. Only my Mak 14.4 impact could do that before.

builderbob · May 4, 2011

James Watriss said:
I've broken screw heads off with my C12, which is more than I can say for my DW 18V. Only my Mak 14.4 impact could do that before.

Same here! I use my C12 daily when installing cabinets & have snapped many screw heads by accidentally having the torque setting all the way up to "drill". It's very powerful in my opinion!

Bob

fdengel · May 4, 2011

Interesting...

Not sure that I'd trust the Hiliti claims to be accurate (or they are measuring by a different standard?), but they claim 609 in/lbs of Torque, while the T15+3 is rated for 354 in/lbs in steel (less in wood):

http://www.us.hilti.com/holus/page/module/product/prca_rangedetail.jsf;jsessionid=05E79213AEDF14B5C206C02A80DB3F3F.node4?lang=en&nodeId=-252025

http://www.festoolusa.com/products/cordless-drills/t-153-lithium-ion-cordless-drill-set-specs-564250.html

I know that these readings aren't exactly the best measure of the "power" of a drill when crossing designs, but that's a fairly large gap in the numbers...

That being said, I think I'll stick with the Festool drills myself

EDIT: Here is a review showing that same Hilti drill with 33 NM of Torque compared to 40 for the T15+3... ???

http://www.festool.com.au/images/download_press/T15_test_DDS_MoebelMagazin.pdf

neth27 · May 4, 2011

I have the 14v hilti impact driver and the 22v Hilti combi drill, would i swap them for Festool drills? No chance..

John...

AlexThePalex · May 4, 2011

fdengel said:
Not sure that I'd trust the Hiliti claims to be accurate (or they are measuring by a different standard?), but they claim 609 in/lbs of Torque, while the T15+3 is rated for 354 in/lbs in steel (less in wood):

.......

I know that these readings aren't exactly the best measure of the "power" of a drill when crossing designs, but that's a fairly large gap in the numbers...

There is nothing wrong with that rating. There are more 14.4 drills with a rating in that area, like for instance the Bosch GSR 14.4 VE-2 Li that I have used a couple of times and I can confirm it is A LOT stronger then my T15. It is also a lot bigger and heavier, with the T15 weighing 1.5 Kg and the Bosch 2.3 Kg and the Hilti 2.2 Kg. The bigger and heavier you make a drill the bigger the torque you can get out of it.

fdengel said:
EDIT: Here is a review showing that same Hilti drill with 33 NM of Torque compared to 40 for the T15+3... ???

The Hilti's 33 Nm is the rating for a soft joint while Festool's 40 NM is for a hard joint. For drills they always give the Max torque rating in 2 ways, hard joints (steel) and soft joints (wood). In this review they simply took the lower number for the Hilti while they should have mentioned the higher torque rating like with the other drills.

That is a nice review you linked to. Only a bit strange they throw some 18v drills in with the 14.4 drills.

neth27 · May 4, 2011

In that review they say the Hilti is the most expensive... The Hilti is £300 the Festool £425..

John..

Deansocial · May 4, 2011

in that case get a panasonic who make hilti's drills and theirs has a brushless motor

drewplunkett · May 4, 2011

Thanks for the info everybody! I think that I will give the festool a try, the chuck attachments won it over for me.

Drew

neth27 · May 4, 2011

Its a joint venture between Panasonic and Hilti http://panasonic-denko.co.jp/e/corp/news/2009/0901-01.htm.. Also the warranty on the Hilti is a lot better.

Deansocial · May 4, 2011

yeah i know its a joint venture which panasonic own more of ok it 51 49 split. I used the panasonic and thought it was very good.

Deansocial · May 4, 2011

neth27 said:
Its a joint venture between Panasonic and Hilti http://panasonic-denko.co.jp/e/corp/news/2009/0901-01.htm.. Also the warranty on the Hilti is a lot better.

have you used the panasonic warranty?

neth27 · May 4, 2011

I havent, but its only a 1 year warranty. Hilti is good for me as theres a Hilti centre about 3 miles from where i live. So if i had any problems i can call down and moan at them [big grin]
Panasonic would of been my next choice.
John,,

Frank-Jan · May 4, 2011

Deansocial said:
in that case get a panasonic who make hilti's drills and theirs has a brushless motor

If I recall correctly it's only the impactdriver of the panasonic revolithium range, that has a brushless motor, the drill/driver doesn't.

Deansocial · May 4, 2011

yeah it is brushless, i had 1 in my possession for 2 weeks while my t15 was away

Spike · May 4, 2011

Wouldn't touch a Hilti drill. They do make nice lasers and concrete hammers though, but steer clear of their drills.

Deansocial · May 4, 2011

Taos said:
Wouldn't touch a Hilti drill. They do make nice lasers and concrete hammers though, but steer clear of their drills.

why?

Spike · May 4, 2011

Deansocial said:
Taos said:

Wouldn't touch a Hilti drill. They do make nice lasers and concrete hammers though, but steer clear of their drills.

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why?

Well....Their made in China for starters. Their batteries refuse to hold a respectable charge, ergonomically speaking they feel terrible in the hand, and I don't like red tools ;D

Deansocial · May 4, 2011

Taos said:
Deansocial said:

Taos said:

Wouldn't touch a Hilti drill. They do make nice lasers and concrete hammers though, but steer clear of their drills.

Click to expand...

why?

Click to expand...

Well....Their made in China for starters. Their batteries refuse to hold a respectable charge, ergonomically speaking they feel terrible in the hand, and I don't like red tools ;D

i have a 4year old hilti drill which holds a great charge and my mate a 7 year old hilti drill which hold charge well, chinha made yes but by their own factory well theirs and panasonics. And if they are working with panasonic the battiries will be very good. Typical US crap, talking rubbish about stuff made in china, At the end of the day stuff is built to a specifacation. Apples products are all made there!

[ Edited for language - Shane ]

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