Festool Grinder AGC 18v (Europe)

Bob D. said:
Phil, is the DSC-AGC 18 FH also coming out at the same time, or is that just the AGC-18 with some accessories for improved dust collection and depth of cut control


And more importantly (to me anyway), when will it be available in the North America, if ever. I could use this tool right now.
https://www.festool.co.uk/products/cutting/cordless-freehand-cutting-system/575347---agc-18-125-li5,2eb-setgb


Bob, if you need something comparable in cordless in North America, Hilti and Metabo both have powerful cordless grinders and effective dust shrouds. I am in both the Metabo and Hilti battery platforms, but will likely be purchasing the Hilti 5” cordless grinder and their dust-collecting shroud. Either setup will lack the flip-up feature of the Festool, but will likely have better collection due to more fully shrouding the blade. 8.0ah batteries available in both platforms....
 
Thanks, I like Hilti and Metabo but I can't justify starting in on another battery platform, I've
got four going now (Festool 18v & 15v, Bosch 12v, DeWalt 20v & 8v, RIDGID 18v & 12v) not
counting yard tools (Ryobi 40v and EGO 56v).
 
Bob D. said:
Phil, is the DSC-AGC 18 FH also coming out at the same time, or is that just the AGC-18 with some accessories for improved dust collection and depth of cut control


And more importantly (to me anyway), when will it be available in the North America, if ever. I could use this tool right now.
https://www.festool.co.uk/products/cutting/cordless-freehand-cutting-system/575347---agc-18-125-li5,2eb-setgb


Hi
The DS AGC 18 will be available also in September for diamond cutting applications with extraction. As for North America this is for my US colleagues to give information on
Rg
Phil
Festool U.K.
 
I  think this is a good question. It appears the AGC 18 FH in Europe is available with a dust collecting shroud and the one in US/CANADA is not.  Can we not purchase this shroud in order to use it for tile cutting applications?
 
Another question , are the tool bodies from Europe compatible with the 18 volt batteries that come with the Canadian tools ? Ie my BPC 18 Battery that works on my BHC 18 hammer drill and PDC 18 Cordless?

On close inspection, it appears they would.
 
mbrusso said:
Another question , are the tool bodies from Europe compatible with the 18 volt batteries that come with the Canadian tools ? Ie my BPC 18 Battery that works on my BHC 18 hammer drill and PDC 18 Cordless?

On close inspection, it appears they would.
The batteries are the same, the only difference in the cordless tools in the chargers (and possibly scales not being in sane measurement units - depending on who you ask).

Regarding the AGC 18 LI and the DSC-AGC 18 FH LI there is one thing that makes me not wanting to buy either - and that is that according to EKAT are both identical, except that

the DSC-AGC 18 having
36 10040397 Absaughaube 1 92,61 € 110,21 € EUR
19 10042693 Winkelanschlag 1 23,21 € 27,62 € EUR

and the AGC 18 having
17 10202104 Scheibe 1 1,43 € 1,70 € EUR
18 10202107 Feder 1 1,43 € 1,70 € EUR
19 10202105 Hebel 1 11,11 € 13,22 € EUR
(and the blade guard that isn't listed)

and the gearbox being mounted 180° rotated as the difference between these 'two' machines.

That's it.

Festool once made versatile tools that were, while expensive, worth the premium - simply because they could be used as a system. But now, instead of making it one machine that can be used for both applications (by designing the grip incl. power switch position in a way that would have allowed to use the machine with the disc/blade on either side - so both pulling and pushing cuts are possible, which is the sole distinction between in operation of these 'two machines'), they seem to have decided to say 'goodbye' to the system idea and instead to embrace a 'goodbuy' approach (well, good for them) of making the user buy the basically identical machine twice in case he wants to perform both functions.

Which, from a perspective of customer and putting it very mildly, is a design decision that IMHO dosn't deserve any of my money.
 
Gregor said:
and the gearbox being mounted 180° rotated as the difference between these 'two' machines.

That's it.

Like with most (any?) of the grinders, the 180 degree rotation, or 90 degree rotation can be achieved by unscrewing the 4 screws that secure the gearhousing, rotating as needed, and fastening again.

Would be very strange if it was not „the same machine“ in the end.
But Festool is usually „packaging“ for use-cases which might obscure cross-uses, if you do not look closely...
 
I'm curious if anyone knows if the new AGC 18 grinder will fit the DCC-AG 125.

The DCC-AG 125 (769075) is a dust extraction attachment that also allows the grinder to be used on a Festool guide rail.
https://www.festool.co.uk/accessory/769075---dcc-ag-125

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Cheese said:
I'm curious if anyone knows if the new AGC 18 grinder will fit the DCC-AG 125.

It will. It's just a standard sized attachment for the 43 mm 50 mm!! necks all 115 & 125 mm grinders here in Europe use.
 
Alex said:
It will. It's just a standard sized attachment for the 43 mm necks all 115 & 125 mm grinders here in Europe use.

Thanks for that [member=5277]Alex[/member] ...I then may need to purchase one for some porcelain tile installation.
 
Alex said:
Cheese said:
I'm curious if anyone knows if the new AGC 18 grinder will fit the DCC-AG 125.

It will. It's just a standard sized attachment for the 43 mm necks all 115 & 125 mm grinders here in Europe use.

Alex, you generally know the the tools pretty well, but I have to ask if you know this will fit from first hand knowledge or are you assuming it works?  I ask because Festool tends to use proprietary connections to prevent compatibility with other brands, and even other models of their tools.  Also, I thought I saw people mentioning that the DCC-AG 125 attachment doesn't fit other grinders??
 
Brice Burrell said:
Alex said:
Cheese said:
I'm curious if anyone knows if the new AGC 18 grinder will fit the DCC-AG 125.

It will. It's just a standard sized attachment for the 43 mm necks all 115 & 125 mm grinders here in Europe use.

Alex, you generally know the the tools pretty well, but I have to ask if you know this will fit from first hand knowledge or are you assuming it works?  I ask because Festool tends to use proprietary connections to prevent compatibility with other brands, and even other models of their tools.  Also, I thought I saw people mentioning that the DCC-AG 125 attachment doesn't fit other grinders??

Hiya Brice, long time no see, where have you been? Nice to see you contributing again.

Alright, I have not used the DCC-AG 125 hood myself. But I do know for a fact all Festool grinders have a standard 43 mm neck and a standard shaped body so I see no reason why it should not fit.

As for proprietary connections, I don't see them so much. In my experience Festool generally follows the standards all other German tool manufacturers use. It is sort of an unwritten rule in the German design and engineering world. Especially the grinder has a standard neck because there are so many different attachments for it.

But you are right to question me, I am wrong so many times. To keep everybody happy I'll pop in a dealer tomorrow and see if I can have a closer look to find out for sure.  [smile]
 
 
Alex said:
Hiya Brice, long time no see, where have you been? Nice to see you contributing again.
I've been here, but I've just been lurking.
Alex said:
...But you are right to question me, I am wrong so many times. To keep everybody happy I'll pop in a dealer tomorrow and see if I can have a closer look to find out for sure.  [smile]
 
That would be great. [thumbs up]
 
I thought the rotation on that specific Festool grinder was the other way round so that the blade isn’t pulling though you the cut, but rather pushing through like a circular saw. ?
 
Realised I’m thinking of a different grinder Festool make. Sorry. A regular angle grinder will rotate fine for this accessory. If it does indeed fit of course. .
 
Michael Kellough said:
[member=5277]Alex[/member]. I have ordered a Metabo 150 grinder. Do you think the neck is still 43mm on a 150 grinder?

Well, I already made a mistake. 43 mm is the standard for the collar of drills and straight grinders. [huh]

For angle grinders of the size 100, 115, 125 and 150 mm the collar size is 50 mm. That's because it is all the same size tool with just a different size disc & hood attached. From 180 mm discs and up you get a different size machine with a bigger collar.

So yes, I'm not infallable, but if you whip me into place once in a while I'll get you there eventually.  [tongue]
 
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