Festool Grinder AGC 18v (Europe)

[Bob D.]

"But face it, if the USA wants international products, they're sooner or later gonna have to face the fact they can't be the last 5% who use imperial while the other 95% of the world uses metric."

I wish we had moved away from imperial measurement system decades ago as was promised. I went through grade school being told the metric system is right around the corner, better learn it now so you'll be prepared. Well, it's 50+ years later and it ain't happened yet, maybe my grandson will see it happen but I'm running out of time.  [sad]

 

[PeterJJames13]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]  and everyone else - my apologies for the super blurry pic (it was taken while trying to get three kids ready for school this am), but the nut is marked 5/8"-11. While I agree about everything said of the metric system, I'm glad this particular tool was "Americanized" so consumables are readily available.

 

[Cheese]

Thanks for that [member=68391]PeterJJames13[/member] ,  [thumbs up]  now I can try a couple of different dry cut porcelain blades. Braxton Bragg have a few I want to try.

Festool also offers one 769162.

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[PeterJJames13]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member] that's an interesting looking rim on the diamond blade - not quite like the turbo rims I've seen. My only concern is will it fit the USA versions....

 

[xedos]

Face, meet egg.

Peter beat me to the post , but I was in my local dealer this morn and had a go with their display. I just happened to have a 5/8-11 nut from a Dewalt to try out.  The display’s nut didn’t have any labeling on it as I recall.

I’m flabbergasted and impressed the Festool took this route.

 

[PeterJJames13]

[member=67935]xedos[/member] I'm glad it's a 5/8"-11. Makes finding wheels much easier and not being locked into a proprietary or hard to find consumable market is what pushed me over the edge to get one. I can take clearer pics. In my morning shuffle and no coffee, I took a blurry pic, but also threw the nut in my jacket pocket so it's with me at work. Now thinking about how easily I did that, I should probably pick up an extra nut for when I will do that again in the future lol.

 

[alain.coste.3@orange.fr]

Hello
I am about to buy a festool grinder/cutting system, and the cordless models seem very interesting. After reading this topic, I thought that the AGC18 or the DSC-AGC18 can be mounted on the DCC-AG 125 (769075) to use it with Festools rails. To choose between the AGC and the DSC-AGC I phoned Festool technical service (in France) and got very bad news; according to the technician :
  - neither the AGC18 nor the DSC-AGC18 can be mounted on the DCC-AG125 (while having the same diameter the collar is not compatible).
  - also the AGC18 cannot be mounted on the DCC-AG 125 FH (the hood sold with the DSC-AGC18)
  - and the DSC-AGC18 cannot be used for grinding as the SH-AGC18 (sold with the AGC18) cannot be mounted on it.
So if you want to grind and cut cordless you must buy TWO machines (and even then you cannot use the rail !).

On the other hand, always according to the technician, the corded version (DSC-AG125) is compatible with all the hoods (for grinding, cutting, included with the rail).

I do not know what to think anymore. I can hardly believe that Festool create such incompatibilities. But this was confirmed by a Festool technician ... I am really disappointed, and about to buy another brand.

If somebody who owns a AGC18 could confirm which hoods this machine can really be mounted on, many thanks to him.

 

[Simon O]

Hi Alain, out of interest what did you end up deciding to do?

 

[grobkuschelig]

I was always under the impression that the difference between the two grinders is just a rotation of the head...

Would be glad to learn more details.

 

[mino]

I'm curious if anyone knows if the new AGC 18 grinder will fit the DCC-AG 125.

The DCC-AG 125 (769075) is a dust extraction attachment that also allows the grinder to be used on a Festool guide rail.
https://www.festool.co.uk/accessory/769075---dcc-ag-125

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The AGC 18 series will NOT accept any of the AGC125 series accessories without a modification or a shim.

The AGC/DSC 18 series use a 50mm diameter keyless system for guard/fence/etc. attachment.
The AGC/DSC/DCG 125 series use a 54mm diameter "screw/pressure" attachment system. I guess a new release of the corded versions will migrate to the 50mm keyless system eventually.

I ended up buying all three fences along with the AGC 18 .. as expected them to fit ... only to find out they do not.
The "FH" dusct collection piece for the DSC 18 is a separate item from the DSC 125 FH and is not available as retail, only as a spare part.

I guess Festool figured most people did not buy into the grinder "system" so they dropped the concept with the cordless version.
Come to think of it, Festool inherited the AGC125 line from Protool and probably never really liked the "value" appeal.

The DCG-AG shroud (makes the RG 130 redundant for a non-pro user) was now discontinued too. Good I got it while still was in shops.
With a DIA-HARD disc it is a godsend for the occasional wall job at a masonry/concrete home.

 

[eljub]

I'm curious if anyone knows if the new AGC 18 grinder will fit the DCC-AG 125.

The DCC-AG 125 (769075) is a dust extraction attachment that also allows the grinder to be used on a Festool guide rail.
https://www.festool.co.uk/accessory/769075---dcc-ag-125

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Hello,

I bought the DSC-AGC 18 then I though this DCC-AG 125 (769075) guide was compatible but this is not working

I cannot return it, my fault so I will buy the DSC-AG 125 FH so the dust extraction will be also working for this model

 

[yetihunter]

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know if Festool is producing these in house?

Or, have they partnered with someone as with the vecturo ?

Sorry for being late to the party.  It’s the same form factor as the newer cordless Fein grinders but with a sliding switch and the head turned and it has the identical encapsulated motor found in those Fein grinders, so, all speculation is Fein by me.

 

[ach_78]

Hi,
I've got the AGC 18-125

Good :
- runs smooth
- tool-less disk attachment
- tool-less guard adjustment
- seems powerful enough although I haven't challenged it's grunt yet
- active brake
- fit and finish as usual (very good)
- did I mention it runs smooth ?

Cons :
- proprietary guard attachment system, any aftermarket accessory/guard with smooth collar won't fit
- body section where you place your hand is ridiculously thick (think Rotex 150 thick), even large hands won't get a good full grip on it. I consider this to be a safety hasard on such a tool that can snap a disc, kickback, etc.
- active brake could/should be stronger and faster to stop the disk
- no dead-man switch, no kickback or fall detection
- cutoff cover attachment not included, Festool's Ripoff-Fu as strong as usual on accessories
- handle needs to be removed for storage in the systainer

Like some other green-button tools, it's a tool that most will buy out of practicality (existing batteries/charger and systainer platform) more than for the actual value of that particular piece.

It's a smooth and fine tool, not arguing about that, but it is by no mean perfect or technically superior than other options on the market that can be acquired for less.

 

[ach_78]

Forgot to post some RPM measurements I made, 5.2Ah 18V fully charged battery + 6mm grinding disk on :

power position : measured RPM
1 : 4530
2 : 5115
3 : 5800
4 : 6380
5 : 7100
6 : 7560

Pretty linear, just level 6 a tad short.

FWIW.

 

[Maestronus]

The AGC 18 series will NOT accept any of the AGC125 series accessories without a modification or a shim.

The DCG-AG shroud (makes the RG 130 redundant for a non-pro user) was now discontinued too. Good I got it while still was in shops.

Are you using the DCG-AG dust shroud with your AGC 18? Does it fit?

Also could you perhaps give some more details about the modification or shim that allows you to use the AG 125 accessories with your AGC 18?

 

[mino]

Are you using the DCG-AG dust shroud with your AGC 18? Does it fit?

Also could you perhaps give some more details about the modification or shim that allows you to use the AG 125 accessories with your AGC 18?

It does not fit ... without the shim + some grinding here and there.
Making the shim was not too hard with a lathe on hand and a bit of creativity, but without it could be a real pain to get the right shape.
Probably can be simplified though. A cut 2 mm thick aluminum tube may be all needed, skipping the "rib" which registers with the groove on the AGC18 in my version. I use this also with the DCC-AG 125 so wanted as tight and secure fit as possible, so maybe overdid it a bit.  [cool]

AGC-18 + DCG-AG + DIA HARD-D130 PREMIUM Disc installed:
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DCG-AG modification:
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Shim (for AGP-125 attachments to fit AGC-18):
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DIA HARD-D130 PREMIUM Disc - these (and other types) come in a set with two washers and a safety screw - the washer is REQUIRED for using the DCG-AG as else there is not enough clearance.https://www.festool.de/zubehoer/768017---dia-hard-d130-premium
I believe the "Innen-Ø  25/22,2 mm" line in the description means you will get the washer(s)
(I got two of them actually, one for 25mm + one for 22mm + a shim for mounting the 25mm disc on the 22mm washer):
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AGC-18 + DCG-AG + example off-the-shelf sandpaper carrier (works but dust collection is limited):
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